Some of us remember the inflationary period of the 70s (Nixon).  Money Market 
funds at that time were paying up to 20%.  That's when interest on credit cards 
jumped to 23-24 and higher %.  Now Money market funds pay about .003% but 
credit 
card interest is still 28% for those unlucky enough to be in debt...which is 
just about everyone.  It the Middle ages there was a widespread belief that 
charging any interest at all was sinful.  Of course the demand was theree 
anyway.  The Jews became the funders of loans.  Eleanor of Castille, as queen 
of 
England kicked out all the Jews from England and confiscated their wealth. 
 Plain theft, for sure.  But the usual, historic interest rate is somewhere 
between 6 and 10% when earnings are 3-5%  So what explains the current 
situation 
except greed?
wc


----- Original Message ----
From: saulostrow <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, August 24, 2012 10:39:43 AM
Subject: Re: Subjective - Objective

Again - loans are a form of credit - the loan and credit industries depend
on generating profit based on interest - if there is no source of profit -
to put new value into the economy - we have stagnation and deficit spending
- which seems to be what we presently have because their is nothing thought
to be profitable to invest in and what is profitable is moving to a
monopoly state. Your account demonstrates how little most of us actually
understand by our economic regime - as for the attack on the middle class -
we can start with the decade long assault on the the safety net that was
constructed between the great Depression of 1929 and the Great Society,
then the export of capital to 3rd world countries and the globalization of
corporations, the attack on unionized labor and more recently the great
mortgage boondoggle (bubble) which effectively has undermined their owners
equity.  Now the republicans want access to the moneys that are in SS and
Medicare systems which for them  represent still another source of fluidity
and profit - which will lead to further impovertization

Again, the money is in banks available to be loaned, which is what banks do.
Banks are required to maintain only about 5% reserves, which means that they
lend out $19 for every $1 they keep in the vaults. That money is used for
something, but whatever it's used for, it's spent. And if the borrower
spends
the money on anything besides paying the interest on earlier loans, tnen the
new spending goes back into the economy in the form of wages or purchases.

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