William writes:

 "How can you prove that "speechless thought does not exist" is an
incorrect
statement? To answer you must define speech and thought and existence.

"I'll try in the context of the statement.

"speech = any word or utterance, including gesture.
thought = any conception including feeling sensation and emotion.
existence =  any conscious awareness of something presumed to be outside
the
self or independent of the self.

"I'm inclined to agree that humans think with 'speech' as defined above. 
That
does not mean that any speech is adequate or correct.
wc"

Cheerskep's reply:

Writers struggle to put their thoughts into words -- how could that be if
their thoughts are in words? How could you ever mis-speak yourself?
Rock-climbers, chefs, chess-players, even tennis-players -- we'd say they're
thinking
all the time, just not with words. Ponder how much thinking goes through
your mind as you drive. Now ponder how much of this "thinking" is entified in
"speech". You are aware of a myriad of elements in your surroundings, and
you respond to what you aware of, not to any verbal articulation of those
elements.

As you're driving you're suddenly aware of a deer right in front of you (a
brown deer, a small deer) and you veer to the right because you're also
aware of a car coming from the other direction in the lane on your left. What
is
passing through your mind is AWARENESS, consciousness. You are not "saying
to yourself" "There's a small, brown deer in front of me that I don't want
to hit with my car, but I also don't want to ram that oncoming car head on,
so I'll go to the right because I see room on the shoulder over there..."
Your response is "reasoned", but your actions are responses to the
awarenesses,
not to any verbal articulations of the content and implications of what's
in your vision.

Beware of begging the question by saying "But it's not 'thinking' until I
put into speech each of those elements," or "Any 'understanding' of a vision
and response to that understanding is merely instinct before it is 'put into
words'."

The movie "Brian's Song" tells some of the story of Brian Piccolo, who was
the second-string runner behind Gale Sayers on the professional football
team, the Chicago Bears. Brian seldom got to play because Sayers was so good.
In the movie, Brian asks Sayers, "Gale, when you run, do you think about it
or do you just do it?" Sayers replied, "I just do it." So Brian says, "Well,
would you try thinking about it?" For football insiders that's a celebrated
exchange. I hated it. In my youth I was also the runner in our football
games (before you say it, I'll say it: "I didn't have one-tenth of Sayers's
talent.") But I could "see" what he was doing. For example, when he was in the
clear with only one man in front of him, he'd often run at about 85% speed
and the potential tackler would angle toward a point where it appeared he'd
meet Sayers. At the last moment, Sayers would hit the accelerator up to 100%,
and, when the tackler got to the "point", Sayers was past it. I'd often done
that in the past, so I knew Sayers was doing a great deal of cerebration as
he executed that stactic. The depiction of Sayers as a kind of
nonreflective monkey repelled me. Articulate he was not, but thinking he was.

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