and what this all has to do with aesthetics is perhaps Walter Benjamin's
observation the right aestehtizes politics ( they give us spectacle, which
result in the loss of self) were the left politicizes aesthetics (they use
them to make us feel an embodied sense of experience - self-presence)  -
distraction versus engagement

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:37 PM, William Conger <[email protected]>wrote:

> Some of us remember the inflationary period of the 70s (Nixon).  Money
> Market
> funds at that time were paying up to 20%.  That's when interest on credit
> cards
> jumped to 23-24 and higher %.  Now Money market funds pay about .003% but
> credit
> card interest is still 28% for those unlucky enough to be in debt...which
> is
> just about everyone.  It the Middle ages there was a widespread belief that
> charging any interest at all was sinful.  Of course the demand was theree
> anyway.  The Jews became the funders of loans.  Eleanor of Castille, as
> queen of
> England kicked out all the Jews from England and confiscated their wealth.
>  Plain theft, for sure.  But the usual, historic interest rate is somewhere
> between 6 and 10% when earnings are 3-5%  So what explains the current
> situation
> except greed?
> wc
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: saulostrow <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Fri, August 24, 2012 10:39:43 AM
> Subject: Re: Subjective - Objective
>
> Again - loans are a form of credit - the loan and credit industries depend
> on generating profit based on interest - if there is no source of profit -
> to put new value into the economy - we have stagnation and deficit spending
> - which seems to be what we presently have because their is nothing thought
> to be profitable to invest in and what is profitable is moving to a
> monopoly state. Your account demonstrates how little most of us actually
> understand by our economic regime - as for the attack on the middle class -
> we can start with the decade long assault on the the safety net that was
> constructed between the great Depression of 1929 and the Great Society,
> then the export of capital to 3rd world countries and the globalization of
> corporations, the attack on unionized labor and more recently the great
> mortgage boondoggle (bubble) which effectively has undermined their owners
> equity.  Now the republicans want access to the moneys that are in SS and
> Medicare systems which for them  represent still another source of fluidity
> and profit - which will lead to further impovertization
>
> Again, the money is in banks available to be loaned, which is what banks
> do.
> Banks are required to maintain only about 5% reserves, which means that
> they
> lend out $19 for every $1 they keep in the vaults. That money is used for
> something, but whatever it's used for, it's spent. And if the borrower
> spends
> the money on anything besides paying the interest on earlier loans, tnen
> the
> new spending goes back into the economy in the form of wages or purchases.
>
>


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