I don't think this is a problem,considering how thoroughly the author
loses control over the work once it has left. Viz Berg. You could try
to reduce the work to purely the creative initiative of its author but
there is a lot of stuff surrounding the work which is under no one's
control. One of the problems with Berg -or quasi Berg,since it is
unlikely that Berg really thinks of himself as making the work-is that
he can't get all the attention of all the possible readers so he is
not able to "create" the work. Similarly I don't think all the
attention and distractions can be filtered away from the work in order
to discern its author's initiative.
-----Original Message-----
From: saul ostrow <[email protected]>
To: aesthetics-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Oct 25, 2012 12:58 pm
Subject: Re: "The problem with Hegelbs aesthetics is the assumption
that the truth of a work of art emerges completely via its conceptual
articulation. The assumption is that the truth is already there when I
interpret a literary text for example. All I have
I do not think we should reduce the work of art to the individual
creative
initiative of its author either - the key word I think is the idea of
revealing the text - which implies that the text is concealed within
what
the author does
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:17 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
Berg wrote:This
means that my role as
interpreter is just to read what is
supposedly latent in the text, not to
reveal things about the text via my
individual creative initiative."
I think Berg has the current romanticized view of the importance of
the"individual creative initiative",that the individual impulse
necessarily adds value to the work,that the text lies inert and frozen
until many other creative initiatives have explained it. In Berg's
view
these additional initiatives seem to be more important than the
author or the author's intent. The work is not truly created until
Berg has read it and explained it to others,using his own words and
making his opinions the reason for the work. That the author is
unaware of Berg's involvement or that the readers don't want to hear
from Berg is not important,given that the work doesn't exist until
Berg
has acted.
Kate Sullivan
-----Original Message-----
From: saul ostrow <[email protected]>
To: aesthetics-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Oct 25, 2012 9:56 am
Subject: Re: "The problem with Hegelb s aesthetics is the assumption
that the truth of a work of art emerges completely via its conceptual
articulation. The assumption is that the truth is already there when I
interpret a literary text for example. All I have
In actuality to reveal (make visible) and to interpret (to enter into
)
mediations that are present in the text(image) means your role is
reveal
things about the text via your individual creative initiative because
the
text needs to be revealed (exposed) - Hegel's point is that its not
about
you its about the work of art
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 5:57 AM, joseph berg <[email protected]> wrote:
"The problem with Hegel s aesthetics is the assumption that the truth
of a
work of art emerges completely via its conceptual articulation. The
assumption is that the
truth is already there when I interpret a literary text for example.
All I
have to do is reveal the mediations that are present in the text.
This
means that my role as
interpreter is just to read what is supposedly latent in the text,
not to
reveal things about the text via my individual creative initiative."
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