And when do you recognize that what u hear is music

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> On Dec 22, 2013, at 12:39 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> The confusion in this exchange among all of us is the result of our using
> different words to refer to the same thing. In particular I see other
posters
> use 'response' where I'd use 'reaction'. I don't say I'm right and they're
> wrong, we're just using words differently.
>
> Here is how I talk about the stages involved in an "experience" (whether it
> be aesthetic or non-aesthetic). Let's use as an example what happens when
> music gets played in our presence.
>
> First there's the noise the player produces. I don't mean anything negative
> by "noise";   I just want to distinguish "noise" and "sound". When a tree
> falls in the forest there is "noise" -- oscillations in the physical air in
> the vicinity of the tree. If there are no ears around to hear, there is no
> 'sound'. "Sound" is an event, call it, INSIDE a skull. When noise hits an
ear,
> the brain processes the noise into a sound. I claim we're on our way to
> confusion if we call noise waves "sound waves". Sound is an aural event,
part
> of our "notional" world, our "consciousness". We can have noise with no
> sound, and, in the head of a Beethoven, imagined "sound" with no noise.
(Just
> as,
> when I say "Abraham Lincoln" some of my audience will "picture" the man.)
>
> So: First, there's a noise, then there's a sound. Next, but all but
> simultaneously, comes what I'm terming my "reaction" -- I'm liking it, I'm
> hating
> it, I'm bored, I'm feeling next to nothing. On rare happy occasion my
> reaction is one of an ecstasty I call an a.e. -- an "aesthetic experience."
>
> Notice my inconsistency there. You'll detect me wanting to include both the
> sound and the reaction -- two elements -- as "the experience"; at other
> moments I'll slip and seem to mean only the reaction when I refer to the
> "experience".
>
> But, unlike any of the forum members participating in this thread, I
> refrain from calling my reaction a "response". As I tried to say earlier:
"I
> use
> 'response' when I have in mind 'what I say or do in specific reply'. So,
for
> me, it would come after my "reacting", the feeling I have as I experience.
> But, though I always react, I often don't respond." Again and again I
notice
> posters using 'response' where I would use 'reaction'. They're not wrong.
> That's often, in English-speakers, the notion behind the use of 'response':
> "When you hear Pavarotti sing, what's your response?" They're not asking,
> "What's your reply to him?"
>
> For all of my would-be clarifying palaver, I'm still on square one with my
> question: "When my reaction is an a.e., why is it so? What's going on?"

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