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> On Dec 21, 2013, at 4:48 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > Don't we then get into classifying different types of experience and > discussing why they are different, and isn't that another way of asking > the question:what is an aesthetic experience ? > > -----Original Message----- > From: saul ostrow <[email protected]> > To: aesthetics-l <[email protected]> > Sent: Sat, Dec 21, 2013 4:41 pm > Subject: Re: Aesthetic experience > > Might the sequence of events for the arts and certain natural phenomena > be "aesthetic > experience" this being a specific type of experience relative to a > given > stimuli, reaction, response,relfection, judgement. > > >> On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 4:27 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Saul wrote:Would it help if we differentiated between reaction and >> response >> >> Also one may want to differentiate between an experience and response > - >> in >> that experiences do not necessarily require a response >> Seemingly there is a desire to confuse the thing with ones impression/ >> experience of it >> >> A fetishist experiences and responds differently to shoe then does a >> person >> who merely uses it for utilitarian reasons >> Also we seem to be confusing response and judgment >> >> >> >> We have: reaction, and response which is not judgement,and experience >> which doesn't require response. >> >> >> >> Also Tom wrote: I use 'response' when I have in mind 'what I say or >> >> do in specific >> reply'. So, for me, it comes after my "reacting", the feeling I have > as >> I >> experience. >> >> always react, but I often >> don't respond. >> >> a reaction/experience/feeling is prior to judgment >> >> You agree with each other as to the sequence of >> events-experience,reaction,response,judgement. Experience in > "aesthetic >> experience" >> is not in the same place in the sequence as experience.If all >> experiences are not aesthetic,then an aesthetic experience is either > a >> reaction or a response or a judgement. One of these experience uses >> should change If all experiences are aesthetic then something is very >> strange. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Cheerskep <[email protected]> >> To: aesthetics-l <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sat, Dec 21, 2013 3:42 pm >> Subject: Re: Aesthetic experience >> >> I tend to use 'response' when I have in mind 'what I say or do in >> specific >> reply'. So, for me, it comes after my "reacting", the feeling I have > as >> I >> experience. When people try to solicit donations from me, or a >> complimentary >> blurb on their manuscript so they can sell it, I always react, but I >> often >> don't respond. >> >> For me, a reaction/experience/feeling is prior to judgment. "Judgment" >> tends to come with the attempt to "decide" something. For example, > when >> I was a >> publisher and someone sent me a manscript in hopes I'd publish it, my >> reaction to the script was one thing, but my judgment about whether >> or not it >> would succeed in the marketplace was another. It involved factors >> exterior to >> the manuscript itself. >> >> All of my prattling here about word usage is personal to me. I can't >> claim >> the distinctions I put forth are other than idiosyncratic. They're >> not >> universal, fact-of-the-matter pronouncements about how others should >> choose to >> use the terms. No "word" has a mind-independent fact-of-the-matter >> "meaning". > > > -- > > [image: Inline image 1] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name > of image.png]
