They also compare their dual polarity against others single polarity and then 
claim theirs is better. 




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----- Original Message -----

From: "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 9:48:06 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x 


The 1.2Gbps claim is aggregate... it's somewhat deceptive marketing, that UBNT 
has been doing for years. It's factually correct, but as far as I know, nobody 
else markets full duplex radios that way. 


22% less than throughput at any giving modulations compared to competing 
products (with the exception of the Mimosa B11, which is much less efficient, 
hence the "best in class" claim), sounds about right. 


Realistically, the AF-11 can do somewhere around 650Mbps in each direction... 
and as far as I know, the only way to get anything beyond that with them, is to 
put up two complete links (including two sets of dishes). It would be nice if 
there was a way to stack multiple radios onto one dish at least, but as far as 
I know, there's not currently a way to do that. 


On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:04 AM, Adam Moffett < [email protected] > wrote: 



So I just read up about the AF11x. I haven't been paying much attention to this 
product because I've been busy with other things. 

The datasheet claims "best spectral efficiency in class" and "1.2gbps". 
Various people on the forum made claims that don't match up with simple 
comparisons of spec sheets. Some were UBNT employees, others were just fanboys. 

The actual info on the spec sheets is that you get about 22% less throughput 
per channel at the same modulation level and same channel size as competing 
products. They claim huge numbers by adding multiple channels together. You 
also can't use a full 80mhz channel, so if I compare to a PTP820C (which 
actually can do 1.2gbps full duplex in XPIC), the Airfiber 11x is more like 42% 
less throughput. 

So the spec sheet is factually accurate with it's numbers, but the text 
narrative is clearly intended to mislead the buyer. Having just realized this, 
I'm a bit offended. 

It seems the only thing it really has going for it is being very inexpensive. 
Like I can get 2 AF11x's for less than one PTP820S with full speed licenses. So 
if I can get enough channels licensed for 2 XPIC links, then the AF11x is still 
compelling. And it might mean I can justify an 11ghz link for a lower volume 
site than I could otherwise. They didn't need to lie about it. 

</grumpyMode> 


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