Yes, but you really only care about that if you have problems licensing
both polarities.  If I can get a complete airfiber link with all the parts
and licensed for $5000 that will do 600Mbps, and it's going to cost me
$6000 with some other radios to get the same capacity, I don't really care
what the radios (and frequency coordinators) are doing to make that happen.

On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I guess we're saying the same thing a different way.
> Yes it's the same channel horizontal as vertical.  You still have to
> coordinate and license two paths and it's still using 56mhz x2 and getting
> 20% less throughput than other product using the exact same spectrum and
> the exact same modulation.
>
> Yes the cost is still compelling.
>
>
>
> On 7/23/2018 1:33 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
>
> I have to correct my statement, I meant to say:
>
> Difficult to compete with AF11x about $2200 with antennas and about
> 550-600 MBps  on a 56 mhz *xpic *channel (using a 80 ghz license).
>
>
> You can achieve 500-600 on a single xpic channel …there is some loss vs a
> traditional radio (10-15%) , but the cost benefit is way to big!
>
>
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Adam Moffett <
> dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> Date: Monday, July 23, 2018 at 1:12 PM
> To: "af@af.afmug.com" <af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18
>
> Wow, I keep accidentally going offlist.  The change is harder for me to
> get used to than I imagined.
>
> Anyway their datasheet says something like 350mbps SISO and 700mbs MIMO.
> Look carefully.
>
>
> On 7/23/2018 12:41 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
>
> Difficult to compete with AF11x about $2200 with antennas and about
> 550-600 MBps  on a 56 mhz channel (using a 80 ghz license).
>
> Latest firmware has 2046QAM …
>
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <
> ch...@wbmfg.com>
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> Date: Monday, July 23, 2018 at 12:06 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18
>
> Sumbuddy needs to make a spreadsheet....
>
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Monday, July 23, 2018 10:01 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18
>
> Divide total throughput / cost …
>
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <
> ch...@wbmfg.com>
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> Date: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 9:11 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18
>
> Just trying to get the highest throughput backhaul for the buck.
>
> *From:* Eric Kuhnke
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 18, 2018 7:08 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18
>
> Both are 80 MHz, but the AF11 only uses 56 MHz wide...  If you look at the
> channel mask from a spectrum analyzer of an expensive carrier type 11 GHz
> radio (Dragonwave, Ceragon) it uses nearly all of the 80.
>
> 18 GHz, 112MHz x dual pol products exist for the ETSI and international
> market.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 6:05 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> Of course I want to use an AF11X due to the price, but which band has the
>> wider channels?
>>
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