I already said the cost was compelling.

On 7/23/2018 3:45 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Yes, but you really only care about that if you have problems licensing both polarities.  If I can get a complete airfiber link with all the parts and licensed for $5000 that will do 600Mbps, and it's going to cost me $6000 with some other radios to get the same capacity, I don't really care what the radios (and frequency coordinators) are doing to make that happen.

On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I guess we're saying the same thing a different way.
    Yes it's the same channel horizontal as vertical.  You still have
    to coordinate and license two paths and it's still using 56mhz x2
    and getting 20% less throughput than other product using the exact
    same spectrum and the exact same modulation.

    Yes the cost is still compelling.



    On 7/23/2018 1:33 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
    I have to correct my statement, I meant to say:

    Difficult to compete with AF11x about $2200 with antennas and
    about 550-600 MBps  on a 56 mhz *xpic *channel (using a 80 ghz
    license).

    You can achieve 500-600 on a single xpic channel …there is some
    loss vs a traditional radio (10-15%) , but the cost benefit is
    way to big!


    From: AF <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Adam Moffett
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>

    *//*

    */Gino A. Villarini/*

    President
    Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

    Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    Date: Monday, July 23, 2018 at 1:12 PM
    To: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18

    Wow, I keep accidentally going offlist.  The change is harder for
    me to get used to than I imagined.

    Anyway their datasheet says something like 350mbps SISO and
    700mbs MIMO.  Look carefully.


    On 7/23/2018 12:41 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
    Difficult to compete with AF11x about $2200 with antennas and
    about 550-600 MBps  on a 56 mhz channel (using a 80 ghz license).

    Latest firmware has 2046QAM …

    From: AF <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Chuck McCown
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>

    *//*

    */Gino A. Villarini/*

    President
    Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

    Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    Date: Monday, July 23, 2018 at 12:06 PM
    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18

    Sumbuddy needs to make a spreadsheet....
    *From:* Gino A. Villarini
    *Sent:* Monday, July 23, 2018 10:01 AM
    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18
    Divide total throughput / cost …
    From: AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Chuck McCown
    <[email protected]>

    *//*

    */Gino A. Villarini/*

    President
    Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

    Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
    Date: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 9:11 PM
    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18
    Just trying to get the highest throughput backhaul for the buck.
    *From:* Eric Kuhnke
    *Sent:* Wednesday, July 18, 2018 7:08 PM
    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18
    Both are 80 MHz, but the AF11 only uses 56 MHz wide... If you
    look at the channel mask from a spectrum analyzer of an
    expensive carrier type 11 GHz radio (Dragonwave, Ceragon) it
    uses nearly all of the 80.
    18 GHz, 112MHz x dual pol products exist for the ETSI and
    international market.
    On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 6:05 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
    wrote:

        Of course I want to use an AF11X due to the price, but which
        band has the wider channels?

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