I'm pretty sure they didn't go through the fcc certification for elevate devices... I'm pretty sure that would've required putting new fcc ID stickers on the radios, anyway. If I remember correctly, I asked somebody from Cambium about it when elevate first came out, and they said that changing the software didn't affect the certification. Maybe that's all controlled by lower level stuff that doesn't get affected?
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018, 8:03 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote: > That wouldn't seem to be allowable & I thought that Cambium did test s/w > and h/w for elevate devices? > > On 8/10/18 4:30 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > I don’t quite understand how a radio can be legal Part 15 if it is > > running different software than what it was tested with. > > *From:* Mathew Howard > > *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2018 5:26 PM > > *To:* AFMUG > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium > > Yeah, I think Cambium uses a new version of the chipset, but it's > > basically the same thing. I'd have to check, but I think that the power > > limits may be slightly different with the Cambium firmware (particularly > > at the bottom end of the UNII-1 band)... it also wouldn't surprise me if > > there were issues with DFS being handled differently (I don't know > > whether or not that's actually the case though). The funny thing with > > worrying about power limits though, is that it's perfectly simple to run > > at way too high of power with the UBNT firmware... I'm not sure if they > > have it locked down better in more recent firmware, but even if they do, > > you can still flash a version that will certainly let you mess with > > antenna settings (on most of the radios, anyway). > > On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 5:03 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote: > > > > Dell doesn't make/profit from Windows muchly, that is a big > difference. > > Dell doesn't have to worry about linux violating FCC rules ( not laws > > ).. I haven't run elevate, are there switches/controls that might > > allow > > power/frequency violations? Isn't the chipset basically the same as > > Cambium is using in their hardware? The only way I would see a > > possible FCC violation would be if it exposes something that Ubnt > > should > > not have had in the product... > > > > On 8/10/18 11:47 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > > Dell isn't harmed when you install Linux on your computer. > > > Likewise I don't see how Ubiquiti is harmed when you install > Elevate. > > > > > > Someone has to spell out the difference for me. > > > > > > > > > On 8/10/2018 2:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > >> so - assuming they are held liable and have to pay damages > > >> how much do ya'll estimate they've made from elevate? > > >> now, don't get me wrong, i have a soft spot for both companies. > > >> they've both made me a lot of money. > > >> i hate to see them doing this - - but i fully see ubnt's point > > of view > > >> too. > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> *From:* Mathew Howard <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> > > >> *To:* AFMUG <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > > >> *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2018 1:37 PM > > >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium > > >> > > >> Cambium is not publicly traded... unless something has > changed > > >> recently. > > >> > > >> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 1:30 PM CBB - Jay Fuller > > >> <par...@cyberbroadband.net > > <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote: > > >> > > >> wasn't aware cambium was publically traded? > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > > >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > >> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > > >> *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2018 1:23 PM > > >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium > > >> > > >> Or short Cambium.... you never know. > > >> MoviePass is selling at 5.1 cents per share right now. > > >> Or 20 milli cents in pre split dollars. Millipennys? > > >> Money is metric, right? > > >> In other words, I bought at 60 cents and it is now at > > >> 0.020 cents... > > >> *From:* Tyson Burris > > >> *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2018 12:19 PM > > >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium > > >> > > >> Looks like its time to short the hell of UBNT stock. 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