I'd agree with most of this, however I do think their decision to go after a WISP was a mistake.
On Wednesday, August 15, 2018, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Read the licensing agreement on both provider's radios. You will find > that UBNT we're well within their right to sue, and I am honestly surprised > that it did not happen sooner. The attitude of 'I own it, and can do what > I want with it', doesn't hold up according to both of their licensing > agreements. > > You may recall when vendors and customers were changing a couple of > hexadecimal digits in order to turn Canopy SMs into APs. As I recall, this > went on for a long time, and only stopped because Cambium sent their > lawyers after everyone involved. > > This issue is pretty cut and dry, and UBNT are well within their rights on > this, and will almost certainly prevail in this lawsuit. > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 5:34 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: > >> Chuck, >> >> Thank you for your response and thank you for the board looking into the >> matter. Yes an ultimatum is an extreme position but I didn't start this, >> Ubiquiti did. >> >> This is an extremely serious matter for all the members so i decided to >> scream loudly and publicly, i'm not a politician, just a business owner >> that sees our industry under attack. We are a *service provider >> association*, not a *vendor association* and we are nice enough to let >> vendors into our group and give them access to our members. I know they >> also supply some much needed funding for WISPA, but it's a two way street >> and the association should be *EXTREMELY concerned when a vendor sues >> it's own customer*. Yes it will be tried in a court of law but that >> doesn't mean WISPA can't also take action. >> >> I'm not trying to cause a division, ubiquiti is at fault for that. I'm >> just raising alarm bells that they are attacking us, their customers. >> >> I look forward to the board's response. >> >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:44 AM, Chuck Hogg < >> ch...@allpointsbroadband.com> wrote: >> >>> Sean, >>> >>> >>> >>> When I joined WISPA, it was for many of the same reasons you joined. I >>> loved the community, wanted to be a part of it, and wanted to ensure that >>> everyone in the WISP industry is given a fair shake. >>> >>> >>> >>> I appreciate you raising this issue, although I wish you would have >>> called me or another WISPA board member before giving WISPA an ultimatum on >>> the members’ listserv. I’m concerned that your approach stokes division and >>> argument, rather than unity. >>> >>> >>> >>> Like you, I'm sad that these WISPA members have been unable to work out >>> the issues between them and have resorted to duking it out in court. I hate >>> to see little guys get caught up in this mess. But as others have said, we >>> have no idea at this time whether the allegations are true or false. >>> They're just allegations at this point. >>> >>> >>> >>> Nonetheless, these are serious issues, and you've asked the board to >>> act. We will of course consider your request, meaning we will gather what >>> information we can and determine whether and when we can make an informed >>> and meaningful decision. >>> >>> >>> >>> Please feel free to reach out to us directly as this case continues to >>> unfold. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 2:46 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>> >>>> An Open Letter to WISPA, the Board of Directors and all WISPA members. >>>> >>>> Our industry and indeed WISPA itself if founded on the bedrock of >>>> helping one another to further our industry and our businesses. This group >>>> is a dedicated, committed group of IT cowboys that try their hardest to get >>>> things done and move forward. When one of our members suffers or has >>>> difficulty, we are all there to stand with them and provide whatever help >>>> necessary. When disaster strikes we jump in and help as in the case of >>>> several hurricanes and bad storms over the years. We also actively strive >>>> to help each other solve difficult problems whether it be configuring a >>>> server, securing financing, finding the best hardware solution to solve a >>>> problem or any other myriad of issues our businesses face the members of >>>> WISPA are there to help! I joined WISPA because I felt it was a great >>>> thing for me and my business and I want to support WISPA anyway I can, >>>> however our membership is being attacked from within and I call on the >>>> board to take corrective action immediately and forcefully! >>>> >>>> Ubiquiti Networks has recently sued Cambium as well as Blip Networks (a >>>> fellow WISP), Winncom Technologies (a WISPA vendor), Sakid Ahmed (Cambium >>>> VP of engineering) and Dmitry Moiseev (project engineer at Cambium) over >>>> Cambiums “Elevate technology”. I’ve attached the legal complaint so you >>>> can read all the details yourself. Basically the group is accused of >>>> “hacking” ubiquiti equipment by loading a different operating system and >>>> user interface on Ubiquiti subscriber radios so that they interoperate with >>>> Cambium ePMP access points. This is no different than someone loading >>>> windows on a Mac, or vise versa someone building a Hackintosh out of PC >>>> parts and loading MacOS on it. Or more to the point someone loading >>>> DD-WART on a linksys WiFi router. However, regardless of the merits of the >>>> complaint, what Ubiquiti is doing is a clear violation of everything that >>>> WISPA stands for! >>>> >>>> I’ve also attached the WISPA mission statement, Goals, Code of ethics, >>>> and Article 8 of the By Laws. Ubiquiti is in clear violation of all these >>>> sections and *I hear by call on the board to terminate Ubiquiti’s >>>> membership in WISPA. A HOUSE DIVIDED CANNOT STAND!* We must get rid >>>> of any bad actors amongst us so that we can continue to accomplish >>>> everything WISPA stands for. >>>> >>>> *IT IS EXTREMELY UNNERVING TO SEE UBIQUITI SUE ONE OF OUR FELLOW WISPS.* >>>> What kind of business actively sues it's own customers? Who will be >>>> next? Our businesses are too small to be forced to defend ourselves from >>>> this bad actor in our organization. I fear that any one of us could be >>>> next on the chopping block and i’ve invested way too much time, energy, >>>> sweat blood and tears to see my business or a fellow WISP attached by a >>>> wall street company with deep pockets that can sue us out of existence. >>>> >>>> I hope the rest of the membership will join in signing this letter and >>>> that the board will remove Ubiquiti from our organization and send a >>>> message that we will not put up with this kind of business ethics. If the >>>> board is unwilling to remove Ubiquiti then I will be forced to remove >>>> myself and my company from WISPA because this is not what we stand for. >>>> >>>> >>>> VERY DISGUSTED, >>>> >>>> Sean Heskett >>>> >>>> ZIRKEL Wireless >>>> High-Speed Internet for NW Colorado >>>> 970-871-8500 x100 - Office >>>> 970-846-8065 - mobile >>>> >>>> >>>> ************************************************************ >>>> ******************************************* >>>> >>>> MISSION AND GOALS >>>> http://www.wispa.org/About-Us/Mission-and-Goals >>>> >>>> MISSION STATEMENT: >>>> >>>> WISPA works to promote the development, advancement and unification of >>>> the wireless Internet service provider industry. >>>> >>>> WISPA GOALS: >>>> >>>> • Encourage Congress and the FCC to write laws that support the >>>> survival and success of community-based wireless Internet service providers >>>> (WISPs). >>>> • Provide online technical forums that enable and encourage the sharing >>>> and exchange of information between all the members of the WISP community. >>>> • Demystify government rules and regulations. >>>> • Publicize, promote, demonstrate and maintain a Code of Ethical >>>> Business Practices. >>>> • Promote and support industry-wide communication, coordination and >>>> cooperation between local WISP organizations, national WISP organizations, >>>> community wireless organizations and wireless industry vendors. >>>> >>>> ************************************************************ >>>> ******************************************* >>>> >>>> >>>> CODE OF ETHICS >>>> https://www.wispa.org/About-Us/Policies/Code-of-Ethics >>>> ARTICLE III >>>> >>>> We will publicize our services in a professional manner upholding the >>>> dignity of our profession. We will avoid all conduct, practices and >>>> promotion likely to discredit or do injury to our field of endeavor. >>>> >>>> ARTICLE V >>>> >>>> In keeping with this dedication to principle, the members of the >>>> Association have further pledged to: >>>> >>>> • Follow through and complete any agreement made verbally or otherwise >>>> to either another member of the Association or to any client or prospective >>>> client. >>>> • Deal fairly with the public and with fellow professionals, giving due >>>> respect to the rights and legitimate interests of others. >>>> • Respect the rights of the owners of intellectual properties. >>>> • Not knowingly disseminate false or misleading information and shall >>>> act promptly to correct erroneous communications for which they are >>>> responsible. >>>> • Use proper diligence to ensure that all materials on their networks >>>> are restricted in accordance with applicable laws, regulations and the >>>> tenets of reasonable precaution. >>>> • Not disparage other members by statement or innuendo to clients or >>>> prospective clients. >>>> • Respond to any complaint or violations filed with the Association and >>>> participate in all processes and procedures of the Association with respect >>>> to that complaint. >>>> >>>> ************************************************************ >>>> ******************************************* >>>> >>>> >>>> By Laws >>>> http://www.wispa.org/About-Us/Policies/Bylaws >>>> >>>> By Laws Article 8 >>>> >>>> 8.6. Termination of Membership. A Member’s Membership will >>>> terminate upon the occurrence of any of the following events: >>>> >>>> 8.6.1. The Member provides written notice to the Board that the >>>> Member is resigning from WISPA; >>>> >>>> 8.6.2. The Member dissolves or ceases to transact the business >>>> that qualified the Member for WISPA Membership; >>>> >>>> 8.6.3. The Member’s Membership expires, unless the Membership >>>> is renewed on terms fixed by the Board; >>>> >>>> 8.6.4. The Member fails to pay dues, fees or assessments within >>>> ten (10) days after they become due and payable pursuant to the decision of >>>> the Board; or >>>> >>>> 8.6.5. The Board terminates the Member’s Membership. >>>> >>>> 8.7. The Board may terminate the Member’s Membership if the Board >>>> finds that a Member has materially breached these Amended Bylaws or any >>>> rule of conduct applicable to WISPA Membership or has otherwise engaged in >>>> conduct materially prejudicial to the purposes and interests of WISPA. The >>>> Board will abide by the following procedures to terminate a Member: >>>> >>>> 8.7.1. The Secretary will give the Member a notice specifying >>>> the Board’s intent to terminate the Member’s Membership fifteen (15) days >>>> prior to the proposed date of termination. The notice will explain the >>>> reasons for the proposed termination. >>>> >>>> 8.7.2. The Member may respond to the notice within ten (10) >>>> days after the notice is sent. The Member’s response will be in writing or >>>> at a meeting of the Board, as the Board may determine. >>>> >>>> 8.7.3. No less than fifteen (15) days after the Secretary sends >>>> the notice, the Board, or a committee of the Board, will decide whether to >>>> terminate the Member’s Membership. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Members mailing list >>>> memb...@wispa.org >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members >>>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> Chuck >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Members mailing list >>> memb...@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members >>> >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >
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