Yeah, I want a link to the 3 foot deep plow if that's what we're talking about.

On 8/30/2018 10:33 AM, [email protected] wrote:
What kind of plow?  Vibratory?
*From:* Chris Fabien
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:30 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber
We also have to run 36" deep. We do have pretty favorable soil for plowing in most cases, only occasional rocks and the plow can usually pull them up. Usually sandy soil which plows great, sometimes clay which can be slow going but still plows OK. We never pre-rip. We don't have goohers, do have ground hogs though. The one cut we've had so far was due to a ground hog trying to move in to a washed out area around a failed drain pipe that exposed our cable underground. Most other existing utilities in our area are direct buried in rural areas. New fiber is put in conduit sometimes, depends on the utility. Many miles of telco and catv fiber direct buried though.
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018, 9:13 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

    How deep?
    *From:* Chris Fabien
    *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:01 PM
    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber
    Chuck, we direct bury in rural areas. My cost for plowing is more
    like <50 cents per foot with our in house crew, figuring 2000ft
    per day.
    On Wed, Aug 29, 2018, 8:51 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

        Do you use direct burial?
        I do conduit.
        30 cents per foot minimum. Add at least $2/foot for plowing. 
        All in, maybe $3/foot and that is if I am doing my own plowing
        and splicing.
        *From:* Chris Fabien
        *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 6:42 PM
        *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber
        We have done 3 cabinets with cheapo AE (planet switches) and
        two sites with cheapo GPON(ZTE). We will be continuing to
        deploy GPON going forward.
        For us, the biggest advantage are ability to use small strand
        count cable which saves cost on material and also lets you
        serve a larger radius from a cabinet with the same size feeder
        cables (same # of strands in cabinet). And larger radius
        served means less power feeds to pay for and worry about
        backup power for.
        We push the strand savings to the extreme using the optical
        tap split method, and often serve many miles of homes using 18
        cents per foot 12F drop cable.
        On Wed, Aug 29, 2018, 3:04 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

            If you have one strand going out there, you hang a switch
            and give all 30 homes active E.
            Each home needs a drop.
            So you have to connect the drop to either a splitter or an
            SFP.
            With AE you will have to power the switch but then  you
            have no shared bandwidth, it has market cache vs shared
            bandwidth old fashioned GPON etc...
            *From:* Colin Stanners
            *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:57 PM
            *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber
            That's the main reason, and it branches into
            upgradeability. If a new 30-house subdivision appears in a
            field a few miles from your headend, and you have a spare
            10 strands going out there, you only need to use 2-3
            strands instead of running new 48-strand cable the whole way.
            On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 1:53 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

                So, other than the obvious strand count advantages,
                why would you use this vs active ethernet?
                *From:* Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
                *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:04 PM
                *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
                *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber

                It works fine. We have it in 2 subdivisions.
                It is brain dead simple to configure.

                Since it “Just Works” there isn’t a lot to configure.
                The ONU (cpe) can run in bridge or router mode. I’m
                not sure what the routing/NAT speeds are capable of
                but it will do 1G in bridge mode without breaking a sweat.

                Jim Bouse
                Owner - Brazos WiFi
                979-985-5912
                http://www.brazoswifi.com

                *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of
                *Jason McKemie
                *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:17 PM
                *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
                *Subject:* [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber

                Does anyone actually have this equipment in a
                production environment? I have a test setup, just
                haven't heard much discussion about it so I thought
                I'd check with the group.

                
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