We also have to run 36" deep. We do have pretty favorable soil for plowing
in most cases, only occasional rocks and the plow can usually pull them up.
Usually sandy soil which plows great, sometimes clay which can be slow
going but still plows OK. We never pre-rip.

We don't have goohers, do have ground hogs though. The one cut we've had so
far was due to a ground hog trying to move in to a washed out area around a
failed drain pipe that exposed our cable underground.

Most other existing utilities in our area are direct buried in rural areas.
New fiber is put in conduit sometimes, depends on the utility. Many miles
of telco and catv fiber direct buried though.

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018, 9:13 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> How deep?
>
> *From:* Chris Fabien
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:01 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber
>
> Chuck, we direct bury in rural areas. My cost for plowing is more like <50
> cents per foot with our in house crew, figuring 2000ft per day.
>
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018, 8:51 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> Do you use direct burial?
>>
>> I do conduit.
>> 30 cents per foot minimum.  Add at least $2/foot for plowing.  All in,
>> maybe $3/foot and that is if I am doing my own plowing and splicing.
>>
>> *From:* Chris Fabien
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 6:42 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber
>>
>> We have done 3 cabinets with cheapo AE (planet switches) and two sites
>> with cheapo GPON(ZTE). We will be continuing to deploy GPON going forward.
>>
>> For us, the biggest advantage are ability to use small strand count cable
>> which saves cost on material and also lets you serve a larger radius from a
>> cabinet with the same size feeder cables (same # of strands in cabinet).
>> And larger radius served means less power feeds to pay for and worry about
>> backup power for.
>>
>> We push the strand savings to the extreme using the optical tap split
>> method, and often serve many miles of homes using 18 cents per foot 12F
>> drop cable.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018, 3:04 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If you have one strand going out there, you hang a switch and give all
>>> 30 homes active E.
>>>
>>> Each home needs a drop.
>>> So you have to connect the drop to either a splitter or an SFP.
>>>
>>> With AE you will have to power the switch but then  you have no shared
>>> bandwidth, it has market cache vs shared bandwidth old fashioned GPON etc...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Colin Stanners
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:57 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber
>>>
>>> That's the main reason, and it branches into upgradeability. If a new
>>> 30-house subdivision appears in a field a few miles from your headend, and
>>> you have a spare 10 strands going out there, you only need to use 2-3
>>> strands instead of running new 48-strand cable the whole way.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 1:53 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, other than the obvious strand count advantages, why would you use
>>>> this vs active ethernet?
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:04 PM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It works fine.  We have it in 2 subdivisions.
>>>> It is brain dead simple to configure.
>>>>
>>>> Since it “Just Works” there isn’t a lot to configure.  The ONU (cpe)
>>>> can run in bridge or router mode.  I’m not sure what the routing/NAT speeds
>>>> are capable of but it will do 1G in bridge mode without breaking a sweat.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jim Bouse
>>>> Owner - Brazos WiFi
>>>> 979-985-5912
>>>> http://www.brazoswifi.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:17 PM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <Af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone actually have this equipment in a production environment?
>>>> I have a test setup, just haven't heard much discussion about it so I
>>>> thought I'd check with the group.
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