Everything I've heard is procera is not supporting small ISP's like wisp's
any longer. They are focusing on the 100k+ wisp's.

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018, 11:20 AM Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]
wrote:

> I too have a Procera box currently (the small one that only does 1gig
> aggregate) and am at the point of needing to upgrade that and Powercode is
> my billing server and they are saying that the Saisei box is a lot cheaper
> than Procera since its just Ubuntu running on your own hardware. They said
> most of their customers that have been running Proceras are pretty much all
> switching to Saisei. I am trying to figure out what to do myself. My
> Procera annual license renewal comes up in December.
>
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 11:06 PM Adair Winter <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> We outgrew the box is why we switched. We tried to go with procera
>> virtual which was procera on your own (to their spec) box but it was
>> riddled with problems. A appliance the next size up with $70k and we were
>> not ready to drop that kind of money on it. although I kinda wish we would
>> have. Saisei has had weird UDP traffic flow issues. We've had Voip and VPN
>> issues where we've had to bypass customers around the box until we
>> rebooted. Thought it was fixed but it's returned again.
>> Gonna give pressem a try and see what happens. If it doesn't work not
>> sure what we will do. Only real option is mikrotik queues. I guess.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 8:53 PM Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> The biggest thing we are looking for is being able to keep customer
>>> experience high even while they're using their plan. Our problem now is
>>> someone will be using 50Mb/s sustained on the down, and their pings go high
>>> and experience is worse than it should be. Trying to get buffer bloat down,
>>> being able to prioritize different traffic behind others is nice as well.
>>> We will see what happens.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 6:47 PM Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Also testing out Preseem. Signed up at wispa, just got the boxes in the
>>>> network and can't wait to see what it can do.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 6:29 PM Adair Winter <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Honestly, we loved procera. We are currently with Saisei but not
>>>>> overly happy.
>>>>> About to do a preseem demo.
>>>>> I can send more detail if you'd like later. On mobile now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Adair
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 12, 2018, 5:10 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Once upon a time there was just Procera.  Then there was Saisei and
>>>>>> then Preseem.  As of the recent WISPAPALOOZA it seems we also have 
>>>>>> Bequant,
>>>>>> which bills their product as a TCP proxy, which is not really what I’m
>>>>>> looking for.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone relate success or horror stories with any of these, on or
>>>>>> off list?  I have at least one WISP recommending Preseem, and they seem
>>>>>> like the latest hot thing.  I am confused as to whether Sandvine/Procera 
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> still selling to the WISP market, and if so, what is their sales channel.
>>>>>> I just got off a conference call with Saisei, and everything sounded
>>>>>> reasonably good, no red flags.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I could go ahead with a trial license from one of these guys, but it
>>>>>> would be good to know who is using what and how they like it.  Anybody 
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> have a good Powerpoint presentation, the question is, how does it work in
>>>>>> the real world.
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