If the sh*t really hits the fan, better already have your food. Rice and beans are cheap. 5 gal buckets. Store a year’s worth really easy. Water will be the #1 concern, then guns to protect your beans and rice. I have solar that pumps my water now. My house is foam/concrete. It really never gets super cold in the basement. I can move into my theater room and survive nicely without extra heat. Beans and rice will eventually get soft in cold water. Toilet paper would be my next big concern. I have plenty of books.
I guess I need some more TP and a tripod mounted 50 cal machine gun for my balcony. Land mines anyone? From: justsumname Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 2:45 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Y'all out there? oh if only I were doing something as exciting as building a tower site in a glacier on top a big mountain in Utah...! I just happened across a 'deal' on 4 12v 100aH AGMs (Universal Battery) and added them to my 'prepper' stash. (disclaimer: a real prepper would call me a beginner or a moron, depending upon my politics). Having successfully survived this long, I have made it down my list far enough to "get prepared for more than a few days outage". I own a gasoline generator and I've never used it, but, if the sun burps wrong and we lose 'the grid' forever, "we" will eventually run outta gas. Either way, I won't be runnin-and-gunnin' my way to the gas station. And it seems awfully damn handy to have at least SOME electricity when the world has NONE. It's much too pricey to put the entire house "off grid", but maybe I could put ... oh ... the freezer and fridge off the grid. Or something. And maybe have an outlet to spare. Turns out, my 2017 freezer and 2012 fridge together use an average of 74watts according to the KillAWatt gadget (which is in series with grid power at this time). It's rather depressing that my 4 batts will power those two only for a day+ with "no sun". I own a 100w mono panel and a cheapo eBay PWM charge controller, but I've been going mental trying to pick an inverter and charger and it sounds like I need more panels and possibly the smartest charge controller I can find (probably not MPPT as I gots no trees nearby). It would be much less expensive to just go ahead and die, but that just doesn't seem right. Living without any electrical power will be quite an adjustment, but if I can hunt food and store it, cut and burn wood (electric saw) and collect rainwater (and clean it up)... this computer nerd might just live long enough to see what comes next. --- On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 3:28 PM <[email protected]> wrote: No but it can totally shut you out of accessing the system. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 1:19 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Y'all out there? I find once the battery voltage gets to 10.5 volts or whatever it is where the LVD kicks in, it starts dropping pretty fast. So I don’t think the LVD costs you a lot of runtime. From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 2:02 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Y'all out there? Not a fan of LVD. If the site is terribly remote and there are frequent outages then an LVD will make your batts last longer. But it still sucks as a solution. Buy a generator instead of an LVD. I have never been glad I had an LVD in the sites where I had LVDs. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 12:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Y'all out there? Yeah that math checks out. The devices I have with LVD stop me at 80% depth of discharge though. I also assume that batteries will get weaker over time....I realize they might not if they're stored in perfect climate control and never get discharged, but I *assume* they do get weaker. So I build for twice the runtime I actually want, knowing I'll actually get the runtime I want even if we add another device or the batteries don't age well. So I would consider that a 26 hour system, and in the back of my head I know I'd really get 52 hours out of it at the day of installation. Some people (McCown I think) have advised to put the load directly on the batteries or otherwise disable/bypass the LVD function because downtime is more expensive than damaging their batteries....and that's a valid perspective too. On 1/4/2019 2:39 PM, justsumname wrote: I'll hijack this thread for something barely worth a thread. I just need a 'reality check', ... I think. So my Kill-a-Watt says 24KwH over 324 hrs. Does that mean it's showing a 74watt device? Which means what .... 1800-ish watt-hrs per day? Which means that my 12v-100aH times 4 AGM batteries will power it for something like 32 hours stopping at a 50% discharge level? Thanks ...that is all. -- On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 12:20 PM CBB - Jay Fuller <[email protected]> wrote: I thought ya'll broke my email :) ----- Original Message ----- From: David Coudron To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Y'all out there? Just waiting for someone to start the next volley 😊 Happy New Year everyone. Regards, David Coudron From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 11:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AFMUG] Y'all out there? Did everyone find something better to do than post here today? 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