Get a 50 gallon barrel full of something like these for your TP prepper needs:

https://www.amazon.com/Towel-Durable-Tube-Packaging-Pieces/dp/B005JWQY40


> On Jan 4, 2019, at 3:18 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> If the sh*t really hits the fan, better already have your food.  Rice and 
> beans are cheap.  5 gal buckets.  Store a year’s worth really easy.  Water 
> will be the #1 concern, then guns to protect your beans and rice. 
> I have solar that pumps my water now.  My house is foam/concrete.  It really 
> never gets super cold in the basement.  I can move into my theater room and 
> survive nicely without extra heat.  Beans and rice will eventually get soft 
> in cold water.  Toilet paper would be my next big concern.  I have plenty of 
> books. 
>  
> I guess I need some more TP and a tripod mounted 50 cal machine gun for my 
> balcony. 
> Land mines anyone?
>  
> From: justsumname <>
> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 2:45 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Y'all out there?
>  
> oh if only I were doing something as exciting as building a tower site in a 
> glacier on top a big mountain in Utah...!
> 
> I just happened across a 'deal' on 4 12v 100aH AGMs (Universal Battery) and 
> added them to my 'prepper' stash.   (disclaimer:   a real prepper would call 
> me a beginner or a moron, depending upon my politics).
>  
> Having successfully survived this long, I have made it down my list far 
> enough to "get prepared for more than a few days outage".   I own a gasoline 
> generator and I've never used it, but, if the sun burps wrong and we lose 
> 'the grid' forever, "we" will eventually run outta gas.   Either way, I won't 
> be runnin-and-gunnin' my way to the gas station.   And it seems awfully damn 
> handy to have at least SOME electricity when the world has NONE.   It's much 
> too pricey to put the entire house "off grid", but maybe I could put ... oh 
> ... the freezer and fridge off the grid.   Or something.   And maybe have an 
> outlet to spare.
>  
> Turns out, my 2017 freezer and 2012 fridge together use an average of 74watts 
> according to the KillAWatt gadget (which is in series with grid power at this 
> time).    It's rather depressing that my 4 batts will power those two only 
> for a day+ with "no sun".   I own a 100w mono panel and a cheapo eBay PWM 
> charge controller, but I've been going mental trying to pick an inverter and 
> charger and it sounds like I need more panels and possibly the smartest 
> charge controller I can find (probably not MPPT as I gots no trees nearby).
>  
> It would be much less expensive to just go ahead and die, but that just 
> doesn't seem right.   Living without any electrical power will be quite an 
> adjustment, but if I can hunt food and store it, cut and burn wood (electric 
> saw) and collect rainwater (and clean it up)... this computer nerd might just 
> live long enough to see what comes next.
>  
> ---
>  
>  
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 3:28 PM <[email protected] <>> wrote:
>> No but it can totally shut you out of accessing the system. 
>>  
>> From: Ken Hohhof <>
>> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 1:19 PM
>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Y'all out there?
>>  
>> I find once the battery voltage gets to 10.5 volts or whatever it is where 
>> the LVD kicks in, it starts dropping pretty fast.  So I don’t think the LVD 
>> costs you a lot of runtime.
>>  
>> From: AF <[email protected] <>> On Behalf Of [email protected] <>
>> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 2:02 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <>>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Y'all out there?
>>  
>> Not a fan of LVD.  If the site is terribly remote and there are frequent 
>> outages then an LVD will make your batts last longer.  But  it still sucks 
>> as a solution.  Buy a generator instead of an LVD.  I have never been glad I 
>> had an LVD in the sites where I had LVDs. 
>>  
>> From: Adam Moffett
>> 
>> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 12:49 PM
>> 
>> To: [email protected] <>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Y'all out there?
>> 
>>  
>> Yeah that math checks out.  
>> 
>> The devices I have with LVD stop me at 80% depth of discharge though.  I 
>> also assume that batteries will get weaker over time....I realize they might 
>> not if they're stored in perfect climate control and never get discharged, 
>> but I *assume* they do get weaker.  So I build for twice the runtime I 
>> actually want, knowing I'll actually get the runtime I want even if we add 
>> another device or the batteries don't age well. 
>> 
>> So I would consider that a 26 hour system, and in the back of my head I know 
>> I'd really get 52 hours out of it at the day of installation.  Some people 
>> (McCown I think) have advised to put the load directly on the batteries or 
>> otherwise disable/bypass the LVD function because downtime is more expensive 
>> than damaging their batteries....and that's a valid perspective too.
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/4/2019 2:39 PM, justsumname wrote:
>>> I'll hijack this thread for something barely worth a thread.   I just need 
>>> a 'reality check', ... I think.
>>>  
>>> So my Kill-a-Watt says 24KwH over 324 hrs.    Does that mean it's showing a 
>>> 74watt device?   Which means what .... 1800-ish watt-hrs per day?
>>> Which means that my 12v-100aH times 4  AGM batteries will power it for 
>>> something like 32 hours stopping at a 50% discharge level?
>>>  
>>> Thanks ...that is all.
>>> --
>>>  
>>> On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 12:20 PM CBB - Jay Fuller 
>>> <[email protected] <>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> I thought ya'll broke my email :)
>>>>  
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: David Coudron
>>>>> 
>>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 6:25 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Y'all out there?
>>>>>  
>>>>> Just waiting for someone to start the next volley 😊
>>>>>  
>>>>> Happy New Year everyone.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>  
>>>>> David Coudron
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> From: AF <[email protected] <>> On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 11:00 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected] <>
>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Y'all out there?
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> Did everyone find something better to do than post here today? Lol
>>>>>  
>>>>> Sent from my smartphone
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