Yeah, 300 mph when you are within LOS 100’ of the tower and not holding the 
phone when it is in your hand.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 12:51 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Using the 5G in naming DBA etc

This is one of the big misunderstandings.  5G is actually an infrastructure 
spec that network operators care about, but they want to market it to customers 
like they will now be getting 5G service which will be tangibly better than 4G 
service.  The customer maybe cares whether the phone they buy is compatible 
with their carrier’s infrastructure.  Otherwise, 4G went from new and buggy to 
mainstream to enhanced with 256QAM, MIMO and carrier aggregation.  Which of 
course 5G infrastructure will also have, but performance is on a continuum, it 
doesn’t take quantum leaps every 10 years.  5G is actually something that 
carriers want, but they try to sell it like something customers can feel and 
touch and will change their lives … as long as they buy a new $1000 phone.

 

The other misunderstanding is 5G is often used to mean small cells and 24-80 
GHz short range high capacity transmission.  It remains to be seen where this 
is deployed and what caveats come with mmWave in the real world.  But the small 
cell mmWave stuff is a whole other topic than the other enhancements going from 
4G to 5G, but the marketing people like to lump them all together.  It’s like 
we have cars that go 300 mph and get 50 mpg.  Oh, not at the same time, not on 
the same roads, and in fact not the same cars, but we can conflate them in our 
advertising because we really want you to buy a new car.

 

 

From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 1:28 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Using the 5G in naming DBA etc

 

"In 2018, 3GPP published Release 15, which include what is described as "Phase 
1" standardization for the 5G NR standard. 3GPP is expected to publish Release 
16, which include the "Phase 2" of 5G NR, by the end of year 2019.[5]"



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From: [email protected]
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 12:01:19 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Using the 5G in naming DBA etc

A draft standard.

 

From: Mike Hammett 

Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 10:57 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Using the 5G in naming DBA etc

 

There is an actual 5G standard.

http://www.3gpp.org/release-15 

 

Now I certainly wouldn't go after someone for using the term 5G when not using 
5G NR, but that doesn't mean someone else won't.



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From: "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 11:07:44 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Using the 5G in naming DBA etc

This wouldn’t be for a 5-10 year thing, it would be a temporary thing for about 
a year.

 

Not sure why it would be considered fraudulent Mike. Do you know something I 
don’t?

 

We are wireless, we use sub 6GHz channels and mmwave 24-60GHz channels, isn’t 
that at least a major portion of the terminology of 5G currently?

 

All we would need to do to fully cover the 5G concept is throw up some LTE AP, 
lol!

 

From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 7:16 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Using the 5G in naming DBA etc

 

Plus the name won’t sound so cool in 5 or 10 years.  Like Windows ME or 
Twentieth Century Fox.  Or Boston Chicken or Dunkin Donuts.  Or 1984.  Or 2001 
A Space Odyssey.  Or Mystery Science Theater 3000.

 

From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 7:46 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Using the 5G in naming DBA etc

 

It's disingenuous at best and fraudulent at worst. I wouldn't.



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP






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From: "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 7:50:53 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Using the 5G in naming DBA etc

So has anyone here using the term 5G in their company name or marketing?

 

Would that be bad to do? Or would it be riding the ‘wave’ of marketing about to 
flood the cell phone market?

 

Any drawbacks to using it now for marketing or part of a company name etc?


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