It's hard to have a modest plan with LEOs. You need lots of birds to have coverage. Clearwire's failing was a lack of funding for significant coverage.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 10:17:14 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat Google Fiber's trajectory runs parallel to other people we've probably all met in this industry. With a surface level of knowledge everything looks easy. Then they get into it and find out the easy parts they knew about were like 10% of the story. Google might have been better buying existing ISP's, or starting on a smaller scale to build up a pool of talent and institutional knowledge. Or both of those things. Just because you have a hundred million dollars doesn't mean easements are easy to get. And having a good price and speed are fine, but an aggressive incumbent can still eat your lunch because they're better at selling it. Maybe Starlink should start with a more modest plan that's easier to achieve and build upon it with the knowledge they gain in the process. I suppose a guy like Musk doesn't think that way though. -Adam On 4/18/2019 10:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Reminds me of Intel deciding not to sell 5G chips for smartphones and their stock goes up, apparently investors feel they dodged a bullet. Or Google Fiber pretty much getting out of fiber. The question “how will this ever be profitable” has a way of clearing your thoughts. Especially when you’re trying to raise money from investors. I assumed SpaceX was profitable and the Internet satellite thing was a Musk hobby project funded from the SpaceX profits, but this article implies it was the other way around. Remind me, which of Musk’s businesses actually makes a profit? From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 9:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat Visible antennas Cost per mbps Latency I will keep my head in the sand. From: dave Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 8:15 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat LOL... Yep.. On 4/18/19 9:05 AM, Bill Prince wrote: <blockquote> Well, well, well. Reality may be rearing its ugly head... https://seekingalpha.com/article/4254917-spacex-backtracking-satellite-internet-puts-future-profits-doubt bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 4/4/2019 5:21 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: <blockquote> Sounds like a job for Space Force. Actually, I'm a little confused. Will these LEO sats be 5G? What good are they if they aren't 5G? How are we going to get remote surgery and self-driving vehicles without 5G? I wish these big corporations would make up their minds, do I need a small cell 1000 feet away because <reasons>, or do I need thousands of satellites whizzing overhead 50 miles up? Seems like polar opposites, but apparently we gotta have 'em. -----Original Message----- From: AF mailto:[email protected] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 7:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat And one more Indian anti-sat test to turn it all into chaff... On 04/04/2019 04:34 PM, Bill Prince wrote: <blockquote> So now in addition to Elon and his thousands of satellites, and OneWeb with their thousands of satellites, we will now add Bezos and another few thousand satellites: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-amazon-com-broadband/amazon-plans-t o-launch-over-3000-satellites-to-offer-broadband-internet-idUSKCN1RG1Y W bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 3/20/2019 10:30 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: <blockquote> Oh, no, Elon will be able to market it to all Tesla owners! And have kiosks in all the Tesla stores! We're doomed! So I guess what I'm saying is technology doesn't sell, marketing sells, and it all depends on who they partner with to actually sell service to end customers. Also of course they are not the only company doing this. OneWeb for example. SpaceX has the advantage of having their own launch service and being able to piggyback on other payloads. *From:* AF mailto:[email protected] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown *Sent:* Wednesday, March 20, 2019 12:09 PM *To:* [email protected] *Subject:* [AFMUG] Real threat Or is the sky falling? https://www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/comments/7zqm2c/starlink_faq/ </blockquote> -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com </blockquote> </blockquote> -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com </blockquote> -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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