Why is fiber no longer news?

 

AT&T, partly due to conditions of the DirecTV acquisition, is adding a million 
fiber customers per year.  In our area, MetroNet is building fiber like crazy 
in small towns and cities.  Not news, apparently.  Of course any 5G celltowers 
will need fiber.  Might be nice if they did FTTH along those fiber routes.

 

What is it about the 5G narrative that displaced fiber in the national 
imagination?  Spectrum auctions?  A race with China?  Streaming bundles?  
People love their phones?  It seems like the race we’re actually losing is the 
race to fiber.

 

 

From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 7:33 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat

 

This was already happening with 4G.



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From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2019 8:59:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat

Incidentally I just got exposed to some details about a Verizon 5G build.  
They're putting a microcell on a pole every 1500 feet.  
Every. 1500. Feet. This happens to be a distributed antenna system where 
they're using RFOG to bring the signal from a central base station to each of 
these microcells.  Each one is fed by a 12 fiber ribbon, so it's a 288 count 
cable running down the road from cell to cell.

My mind was blown.  The money they must be dumping into this 5G thing is so 
great that it's hard to understand why they prefer that over Fiber to the prem. 
 Service drops are hard?  Or demand for mobile capacity is really that huge?

On 4/24/2019 10:42 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

Well, imagine that... who would've ever guessed that they aren't going to put 
up millimeter wave stuff in areas where there's nothing but maybe few cows and 
a goat actually within range of the towers...

 

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 8:58 AM Bill Prince <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

This almost needs a rim shot.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/04/millimeter-wave-5g-isnt-for-widespread-coverage-verizon-admits/

 

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On 4/19/2019 2:36 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Read a good report from a writer that tried 5g all over downtown Chicago.  No 
surprises.  Sucks just as bad as any other mm wave with less than ideal los.  
Nothing to worry about.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 19, 2019, at 3:08 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

I had a customer today say very authoritatively that 5G will give all rural 
users gigabit speeds and wanted to know when we were switching to it (houses on 
his road are 2 per mile).

 

Of course I also had a support call from a customer putting his email address 
into Firefox to get his email, and another who couldn’t understand that her 
domain registrar was asking her to create security challenge questions, not to 
answer them.  My customers are not necessarily the sharpest knives in the 
drawer.

 

 

From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2019 4:00 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat

 

LTE wasn't a twinkle in anyone's eye when Clearwire was deploying WiMax.



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To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected] 
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Sent: Friday, April 19, 2019 8:09:47 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat

By not choosing LTE, they lost the change of interop, volume manufacturing 
etc.. 

 

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Date: Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 12:09 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat

 

I don't think that had anything to do with it. There wasn't anything inherently 
wrong with WiMax.



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From: "Bill Prince" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
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Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 11:05:44 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat

That and that they hung their hat on WiMax (in the beginning).


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On 4/18/2019 8:19 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> It's hard to have a modest plan with LEOs. You need lots of birds to 
> have coverage. Clearwire's failing was a lack of funding for 
> significant coverage.

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