Yeah, I imaging rural 5G will look a lot like 4G... I can't see that the
big mobile guys are going to be doing a lot of stuff like CBRS in areas
where they can't even be bothered to put up 4G on spectrum they already own.

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 10:18 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

> But there’s CBRS!
>
>
>
>
> https://www.telecompetitor.com/analysts-question-verizon-5g-spectrum-strategy-company-needs-mid-band-spectrum-but-where-will-it-come-from/
>
>
>
> And 3700-4200, or buy mid band spectrum from DISH or Lightsquared or
> Sprint.
>
>
>
> I suspect the main obstacle to rural fixed wireless from the mobile guys
> has little to do with technical standards or spectrum and more to do with
> business decisions.  Rural 5G will look a lot like current 4G.  And their
> interest in going after rural customers seems to wane except when they’re
> lobbying for something.
>
>
>
> Well, then there’s AT&T and their plan to use powerlines to guide their
> microwaves.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:43 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
>
>
>
> Well, imagine that... who would've ever guessed that they aren't going to
> put up millimeter wave stuff in areas where there's nothing but maybe few
> cows and a goat actually within range of the towers...
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 8:58 AM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> This almost needs a rim shot.
>
>
> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/04/millimeter-wave-5g-isnt-for-widespread-coverage-verizon-admits/
>
>
>
> bp
>
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
>
> On 4/19/2019 2:36 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Read a good report from a writer that tried 5g all over downtown Chicago.
> No surprises.  Sucks just as bad as any other mm wave with less than ideal
> los.  Nothing to worry about.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Apr 19, 2019, at 3:08 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I had a customer today say very authoritatively that 5G will give all
> rural users gigabit speeds and wanted to know when we were switching to it
> (houses on his road are 2 per mile).
>
>
>
> Of course I also had a support call from a customer putting his email
> address into Firefox to get his email, and another who couldn’t understand
> that her domain registrar was asking her to create security challenge
> questions, not to answer them.  My customers are not necessarily the
> sharpest knives in the drawer.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Friday, April 19, 2019 4:00 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Real threat
>
>
>
> LTE wasn't a twinkle in anyone's eye when Clearwire was deploying WiMax.
>
>
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> I don't think that had anything to do with it. There wasn't anything
> inherently wrong with WiMax.
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> *From: *"Bill Prince" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Thursday, April 18, 2019 11:05:44 AM
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> That and that they hung their hat on WiMax (in the beginning).
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> bp
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> On 4/18/2019 8:19 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> > It's hard to have a modest plan with LEOs. You need lots of birds to
> > have coverage. Clearwire's failing was a lack of funding for
> > significant coverage.
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