ROLM, have not thought about them for a very long time. They had ISDN stuff, right?

-----Original Message----- From: Robert Andrews
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 10:31 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT tis the season

They say success kills more businesses...   I say it is getting the $$
from people that does.  I know of about 5 people who set up businesses,
had fairly good success selling and totally failed at collecting.   I
used to work in sales engineering at some big companies ( IBM, ROLM )
and I couldn't believe the number of salesdroids that absolutely had no
sense of making a sale except giving away the product.  The customers
saw them coming a mile away ( basically the first phone call )..   These
sales would drag the district results in the toilet for the 6 months to
a year to get rid of the non-sales person and impact results for
years...   Usually a 4 to one ratio of salesdroit tries to success..
And these were for products that almost sold themselves...   Two
absolute needs in business, the ability to collect ( and twist and arm )
and the ability to fire..

On 05/09/2019 08:15 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
No longer Avon. We were first married. She used to lug her stuff around the small town where I was the “phone man”. I knew absolutely every person in that town, every dwelling, every dog. I gave her a nice list so she wasn’t totally cold calling. She enjoyed it until it came time to collect from some of those wonderful people...
*From:* Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Thursday, May 9, 2019 9:11 AM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT tis the season

No longer married, or no longer an Avon lady?

(OK, now that is reminding me of the lame old joke that starts “it won’t be long until we’re married”.)

*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Thursday, May 9, 2019 9:57 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT tis the season

I used to be married to one.

*From:*Daniel White

*Sent:*Thursday, May 9, 2019 8:19 AM

*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT tis the season

They call it out right in the description too:

https://www.avon.com/product/skin-so-soft-bug-guard-plus-ir3535-expedition-spf-30-family-size-pump-spray-47861?rrec=false

Find yourself an Avon lady Chuck :-)

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Lewis Bergman wrote on 5/8/19 19:58:

    Avon skin so soft. No idea if they still sell it but when I was in
    the USMC it repelled everything from jungles, swamps, and dessert.

    On Wed, May 8, 2019, 7:32 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

        Every year, the biting midge flies come out.  Miserable to be
        outside my shop during certain hours of the day.  I got some
        mosquito nets that are to be worn over the hat.  The bugs get
        through.

        Nothing we have tried seems to work.  DEET seems to attract them.

        We have had a wet spring and there are wetlands next to my
        shop.  Perfect breeding grounds.

        Anyone have suggestions other than tyvec full hazmat suit?

        I pine for a bag of DDT wetable powder.

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