Different freqs for download vs upload… on tdd.. UBNT LTU has this
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What is asymmetric channel freq if it's not FDD?
On 10/31/2019 1:38 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
No fdd… CA if posible…
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So FDD and carrier aggregation? Those are usually high priced
features.
On 10/31/2019 11:45 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
and we are at it, @Matt Mangriotis
<mailto:[email protected]> consider the
following for an extended life of the 450 platform:
-Asymmetric channel size configuration
-Asymmetric channel freq. configuration
-higher modulations (don’t know if HW is capable)
-fragmented channel assignment / CA Ex.= 40 mhz total split in
4 10mhz blocks (don’t know if HW is capable)
-Omni Medusa and 60/30 deg Medusa
-Vivato type PTP certification for Medusa (higher TX power)
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I think a 25 dBi antenna would be a standard customer install.
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*From: *"Adam Moffett" <[email protected]>
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Yes....give us all the goddamn gain. There must be a vocal
market segment that wants small, cute antennas. But, If you
want the 32+ SNR for 256QAM then you need gain. Gain beets
cuteness for anybody who's done the math.
On 10/31/2019 10:02 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
Matt,
The original form factor product would be fantastic. It
would be even better if you make it so the internal unit
antenna is specifically designed to properly illuminate a
reflector dish.
The original patch antenna matching to a reflector was
always something of a kludge that worked but was not
optimal. I don’t see any point in designing the unit
with a patch antenna intended for short range use as there
are other/better products in the lineup to serve that
purpose. Having a unit that is optimized for the
thousands of KP, Beehive, Cambium reflectors we have in
the field would be great.
Having a unit with connectors that cleanly mates into a
twistport horn adapter would also be a useful tool in the
toolbox.
If there is anything that Cambium (and every other vendor)
has taught us over the years is that you can’t have too
much gain and directionality in your client antennas.
it’s really the secret to why fixed wireless in unlicensed
works so well. The 450b high gain that wasn’t high gain
was disappointing. Having the option to cleanly add
antenna gain again would be very welcome.
Mark
On Oct 31, 2019, at 9:31 AM, Matt Mangriotis via AF
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Also, to set the record a straight(er)…
The 450b Connectorized is targeted for March release.
This will indeed have RP-SMA connectors at the top
(similar to 900 MHz SM).
The other one that you guys are talking about, I am
calling 450b Retro. As Jeff mentions, I am still
working up a plan for this device, and don’t have a
release date yet. The idea is that it’ll have the
latest processing power, the wide band support, fit
into the same offset reflectors that are already out
there, and be reasonably priced.
This would provide an easy upgrade or swap of the
older 430 or 450 SMs that are deployed already with
those reflector dishes.
Matt
*From:*AF <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> *On Behalf Of *Kurt
Fankhauser
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:04 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
*Subject:* [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] 450i LITE AP - 20
SM limit
450b connectorized had SMA stye connectors on top, did
not look like a 900mhz SM, looked more like a RocketM5
On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 12:53 PM Ken Hohhof
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Do you remember what the connectorized 450b looked
like? SMA connectors on top like the 900 MHz SM?
N pigtails out bottom like the old one? Twistport
adapter?
I realize the pigtails out the bottom were not
optimal, but KPP was nice enough to build a dish
with a place to mount the SM where the pigtails
dressed just perfect. Also putting coax connectors
on the top is not optimal from a drip loop
perspective and SMA connectors are a pain to
waterproof unless you believe in the silicone
boots which aren’t conducive to third party or
custom length coax jumpers.
*From:*AF <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> *On Behalf Of
*Jeff Broadwick - Lists
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 30, 2019 11:39 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit
I asked him right after I saw you post about it.
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On Oct 30, 2019, at 12:14 PM, Kurt Fankhauser
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Matt told me at Wispalooza show old form
factor SM is coming spring 2020. Also at
Wispalooza show they had a new SM there that
was containerized and triband for like
$250'ish !!!
On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 12:09 PM Ken Hohhof
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I thought someone posted that Matt said
the old form factor was coming Q1 2020.
Not sure that’s actually different - until
I can buy it, it’s pretty much in “we are
considering it” phase.
Thing is, 5 GHz 450 SMs took a step back
with the 450b, we no longer have a
connectorized SM or one that we can use
with a reflector dish, and many of us have
encountered performance problems with the
integrated antenna in the 450b high gain.
And even if we acquire more of the EOL 450
SMs, they lack the CPU, triband
capability, and xmt power of the 450b.
Back on topic to the 450i Lite AP, we have
some of the old 450 Lite APs. If we
haven’t already applied a key to make them
into Full APs, I generally prefer to
replace them with a 450i AP. It’s just so
confusing having a mix of 24V and 48V
powering, Canopy Sync and Cambium Sync,
plus the 450i has a more capable CPU. So
you could look at that as an advantage of
the Lite, you can upgrade the HW in the
future instead of buying an upgrade key.
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<mailto:[email protected]>> *On
Behalf Of *Jeff Broadwick - Lists
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:48 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
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*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450i LITE AP - 20
SM limit
To be clear, the 5GHz 450b exists. The
3GHz high gain is now slated for 1st qtr2020.
I asked CambiumMatt about bringing back
the old form factor to use with
reflectors. That’s in the “we are
considering it” phase.
Jeff Broadwick
CTIconnect
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574-220-7826 Cell
[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
On Oct 30, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Ken
Hohhof <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
450b high gain exists now, I think
what is supposed to be coming is a
connectorized 450b and a 450b in the
old form factor that takes a reflector
dish.
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<mailto:[email protected]>> *On
Behalf Of *Tyson Burris
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 30, 2019
8:07 AM
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*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450i LITE AP -
20 SM limit
The lite was announced and I believe
the 450B high gain sm will be coming out.
(actual SM)
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To make more money comrade.
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*Sent:*Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:55 AM
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*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] 450i LITE AP -
20 SM limit
I mean. I guess? To me that just
shouts of going back to license keys.
If I can buy it for X, but I can
upgrade it to Y with a license key -
that model just never made sense to
me. I literally have all he hardware.
There’s no additional cost. You’re
just artificially crippling the unit.
If the hardware can be sold for the
price of the LITE and still make a
profit, why is the key needed to
unlock features?
On Oct 29, 2019, at 11:00 PM, Kurt
Fankhauser <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Don't know how I missed this at
Wispalooza, just seen on
streakwave's website there is a
new 450i AP out with a 20sm limit
called LITE and can be upgraded to
full capacity with a key upgrade.
Cambium C050045AL02B
5 GHz PMP 450i Connectorized AP
FCC LITE
PMP 450i Connectorized Access
Point LITE
The LITE version will function
exactly as the existing PMP 450i
AP but it will be restricted to
having 20 subscribers connected. A
key can be purchased to remove
this restriction.
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I can see myself using alot of
these! Glad it has a 20 SM limit
instead of 10. And there is an
integrated 90 degree sector
version too.
AWESOME
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