Gotcha. So why not explain that to them. Maybe they’d be interested in helping 
to subsidize the tower upgrade?

> On Nov 17, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Here’s that barn from Google Earth.
>  
> But the point is they wanted a higher speed plan than we can offer from that 
> particular tower, which is an old legacy micropop and not fed with licensed 
> backhaul, the reason being they want to stream tons of video because that’s 
> what they are used to on fiber at their old house.
>  
> The other 2 towers which are major towers in our network with licensed 
> backhaul and lots of APs including 450m and both 5 and 3.65 GHz at one of 
> them, cannot even see their barn.  They are close enough, but their ground 
> elevation is 100 ft lower than surrounding terrain and there are lots of 
> trees both on their property and on higher ground in between.
>  
>  
> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Robert
> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 9:56 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tired of entitled streamers
>  
> Ummm, a roof that is partially falling down, yeah, maybe a brace for a tower 
> but not something I would hang gear on and worry about how to get power to... 
>  was there an "LOL" missing?
> 
> On 11/17/19 7:49 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> How is that totally blocked?  I can see the roof and a food portion of it?
> 
> On Nov 17, 2019, at 10:43 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Actually it’s more the people on low ground with big trees 360 degrees that 
> don’t have LOS to anything.  If they want to build a 100 ft tower, we can get 
> them service.  So you could call it a last mile problem, but not in the sense 
> you probably mean it.  More of a chainsaw problem.
>  
> They just took for granted that Metronet was nice enough to run fiber down 
> the street where they used to live, but I’ll bet there were more than 2 
> houses per mile there.  At their new house they have well and septic and a 
> propane tank, maybe they also need to pay for satellite TV and learn to 
> program the DVR.  The elderly couple they bought the house from probably 
> didn’t need superfast Internet.
>  
> Example, the photo I’m attaching.  Of the telephoto photos from all 3 of our 
> nearby towers, this is the only thing we could see.  Their house is totally 
> blocked, because they are on low ground surrounded by trees.  This is the 
> peak of an old 40 ft barn with a steep roof that has huge holes that have 
> fallen in only the top of the barn roof is visible in the photo).
>  
> They can see the southern sky and could get Hughesnet.  Or wait for LEO 
> service.  Or for the government to pay for fiber.
>  
>  
> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 8:52 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tired of entitled streamers
>  
> Where is your pain point? Last mile, middle mile, something else?
> 
> 
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> From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]>
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 11:31:12 AM
> Subject: [AFMUG] tired of entitled streamers
> 
> Anybody else losing their patience with streamers?
>  
> The people who just moved from somewhere they had gigabit fiber to the middle 
> of nowhere in a low spot surrounded by tons of trees, and say they stream all 
> their TV on 3-4 screens at the same time.
>  
> I want to yell at them, if you had affordable blazing fast Internet, and it’s 
> that important to you, why did you move?  And if you had to move, why didn’t 
> you move to a nice suburb with fiber or at least cable?  And why do you have 
> to stream everything?  You could get satellite TV.  Yes, it’s expensive, get 
> over it.  You could put up a TV antenna.  You could get DVDs by mail.  Or if 
> moving to the country was so important, you could go out on the ATV or horse 
> or snowmobile, or go hunting, or feed the chickens and mini goats.  If 
> they’re streaming all the time, I have to suspect the reason for moving to 
> Green Acres was to save on property taxes, and the reason for streaming is to 
> avoid paying $200/month to DirecTV or DISH.
>  
> It’s gotten so  bad, a significant number of prospective customers say they 
> only want Internet to stream, anything else they can do on their phone.  And 
> when a streaming subscription is sub $10 (or free with Amazon Prime), they’re 
> thinking Internet is like shipping, it shouldn’t cost more than the item 
> being delivered.
>  
> I know, “OK boomer”.
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