Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

Mon, 25 Nov 2019 07:45:27 -0800

I was scouring the net trying to get a clue about what size the batteries would be on this thing. Only one publication speculated that the base model with 250 mile range (the $39,900 one) would have a ~~ 75KWh battery. Of course it is pure speculation, but that would result in about 111 MPGe. Can't do that with your diesel Silverado.


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On 11/24/2019 7:36 PM, Robert wrote:
I think I figured out the design...   Prototype name was the Cyberf117


On 11/24/19 6:20 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I want one with a Boston Scientific dog in the back. 
 
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2019 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
 
Tesla production models roaming the streets is scary enough without the nightmare of prototypes creeping through the alleys
 
On Sat, Nov 23, 2019, 10:27 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:

There may be prototypes roaming the streets as we speak.

 

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On 11/23/2019 8:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Review says the exterior is all “stabby” but the inside is comfy.

https://www.engadget.com/2019/11/22/tesla-cybertruck-impressions-ride/

 

Stabby Steve would like it.

 

I was surprise they were taking it on test drives, I had assumed it was a non functional prototype just for show.

 

 

From: AF mailto:[email protected] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 7:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

 

Oh, he didn't opt for the cupholder delete option, which comes with a $4K/cupholder CREDIT...

On 11/22/19 4:53 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

I was just going by what Robert said as $8K, and I figured there were two of them.

 

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On 11/22/2019 4:51 PM, Tim Hardy wrote:

Umm, Bill - fake news. Came in my 2016 Cayman GTS for nada…

 



On Nov 22, 2019, at 7:37 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:

 

Yeah. Only $4K each.

 

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On 11/22/2019 3:51 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

woah! you can get cupholders in a Porsche these days?!

 

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:30 PM Robert Andrews <[email protected]> wrote:

Having gone through Porsche ordering hell, 8K gets you cupholders
finally,  Sound system?  More like 15...

On 11/22/2019 01:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Toyota is super nice when it comes to base models.  I got a 4 cylinder
> Tacoma (should have gotten the v6, it's way too underpowered) base model
> and it has touchscreen with bluetooth.  Power windows/locks/etc.
>
> Porsche on the other hand requires you have something like $8k in
> options for that feature.  Another $2k if you want the bluetooth to do
> audio as well.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
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>
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:56 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     It was mostly a dig at the lowest priced option a manufacturer makes
>     probably is missing a variety of features one is used to.
>
>
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>     *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 2:53:33 PM
>     *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
>
>     Yes Mike, it's a Toyota.  Not Pontiac.
>
>     Josh Luthman
>     Office: 937-552-2340
>     Direct: 937-552-2343
>     1100 Wayne St
>     Suite 1337
>     Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>     On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:51 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>         Does a $30k truck come with AC? Power windows? Radio?
>
>
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>         *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 2:49:15 PM
>         *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
>
>         OK... and?  Still a far cry from $40 or $50.
>
>         On 11/22/19 3:42 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>          > That's $32,780...
>          >
>          > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 2:35 PM Matt Hoppes
>          > <[email protected]
>         <mailto:[email protected]>
>          > <mailto:[email protected]
>         <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>          >
>          >     That’s the current model.
>          >
>          >     Here’s the bill of sale:
>          >
>          >     image1.jpeg
>          >
>          >     On Nov 22, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Josh Luthman
>          >     <[email protected]
>         <mailto:[email protected]>
>         <mailto:[email protected]
>         <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>          >     wrote:
>          >
>          >>     That's $36k, 20% more...
>          >>
>          >>     Josh Luthman
>          >>     Office: 937-552-2340
>          >>     Direct: 937-552-2343
>          >>     1100 Wayne St
>          >>     Suite 1337
>          >>     Troy, OH 45373
>          >>
>          >>
>          >>     On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 1:08 PM Matt Hoppes
>          >>     <[email protected]
>         <mailto:[email protected]>
>          >>     <mailto:[email protected]
>         <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>          >>
>          >>         I’ll get you the bill of sale when I get back to the
>         office.
>          >>
>          >>         Brand new 2018 Tundra. 100 miles. Never owned. No issue.
>          >>
>          >>         Here’s a comparably equipped 2019 for $34k.
>          >>
>          >>         <image1.png>
>          >>
>          >>         On Nov 22, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman
>          >>         <[email protected]
>         <mailto:[email protected]>
>          >>         <mailto:[email protected]
>         <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>          >>
>          >>>         You think a truck would have sat on the lot for a
>         year?
>          >>>         Tundras don't sell well, but I don't think they sell
>          >>>         remarkably bad.
>          >>>
>          >>>         Josh Luthman
>          >>>         Office: 937-552-2340
>          >>>         Direct: 937-552-2343
>          >>>         1100 Wayne St
>          >>>         Suite 1337
>          >>>         Troy, OH 45373
>          >>>
>          >>>
>          >>>         On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:38 PM Robert
>          >>>         <[email protected]
>         <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
>         <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>          >>>
>          >>>             Last year lot sitter, sure....
>          >>>
>          >>>             On 11/22/19 9:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>          >>>>             I seriously doubt you got a new, untitled,
>         Tundra for
>          >>>>             $30k,  Especially with options.  There's no
>         way they're
>          >>>>             doing a 10%+ discount for you or anyone else
>         with a
>          >>>>             single quantity purchase.  I'll believe 30k
>         when I see
>          >>>>             the bill of sale.
>          >>>>
>          >>>>             Josh Luthman
>          >>>>             Office: 937-552-2340
>          >>>>             Direct: 937-552-2343
>          >>>>             1100 Wayne St
>          >>>>             Suite 1337
>          >>>>             Troy, OH 45373
>          >>>>
>          >>>>
>          >>>>             On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:57 AM Matt Hoppes
>          >>>>             <[email protected]
>         <mailto:[email protected]>
>          >>>>             <mailto:[email protected]
>         <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>          >>>>
>          >>>>                 I absolutely know what trucks cost and
>         $50-$60k is
>          >>>>                 way too much.   We
>          >>>>                 purchased a brand new Toyota Tundra two
>         years ago
>          >>>>                 for $30k... outfitted
>          >>>>                 well.
>          >>>>
>          >>>>                 On 11/22/19 10:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>          >>>>                 > To be consistent with my feelings on
>         their semi
>          >>>>                 truck, as long as the
>          >>>>                 > performance, specifications,
>         reliability, utility
>          >>>>                 are as promised, I
>          >>>>                 > care much less about how it appears.
>          >>>>                 >
>          >>>>                 > That $40k price point is nice, though
>         I'd want at
>          >>>>                 least the $50k to have
>          >>>>                 > AWD.
>          >>>>                 >
>          >>>>                 > I've seen people say stuff like, "OMG,
>         that too
>          >>>>                 much money for a truck."
>          >>>>                 > Clearly they have no idea what trucks
>         cost. I
>          >>>>                 haven't seen what the
>          >>>>                 > electric ATV costs.
>          >>>>                 >
>          >>>>                 > I also wonder what else changes between
>         the tiers.
>          >>>>                 Adding more motors
>          >>>>                 > shouldn't add to the range of the
>         vehicle, so
>          >>>>                 what's happening with the
>          >>>>                 > battery, weight, etc. Adding more batteries
>          >>>>                 shouldn't make it faster, so
>          >>>>                 > what's up with the extra motors?
>          >>>>                 >
>          >>>>                 > I'm more willing to admit I don't need
>         to pull a
>          >>>>                 house with my daily
>          >>>>                 > driver because I can always get
>         something from the
>          >>>>                 farm. I just want it
>          >>>>                 > to be big enough to handle most things.
>         Hell, even
>          >>>>                 the 14k towing would
>          >>>>                 > be enough for our Bobcat and trailer.
>          >>>>                 >
>          >>>>                 > I wonder how trailers work with the
>         EVs...  how
>          >>>>                 easy is it to add (or
>          >>>>                 > get the option for) gooseneck, fifth
>         wheel, etc.
>          >>>>                 >
>          >>>>                 > I do like the hard, lockable tonneau
>         cover. Maybe
>          >>>>                 Rivian had it
>          >>>>                 > available and I just forgot. Nice place
>         to store a
>          >>>>                 bunch of tools for a
>          >>>>                 > work truck, though no place to add a
>         ladder rack.
>          >>>>                 >
>          >>>>                 > I was annoyed they didn't have battery
>         specs, but
>          >>>>                 I suppose that could
>          >>>>                 > still be fuzzy. Maybe they don't know if
>         they need
>          >>>>                 100 or 110 kw to meet
>          >>>>                 > their advertised performance numbers.
>          >>>>                 >
>          >>>>                 > Weight would be nice to know as well.
>          >>>>                 >
>          >>>>                 > I'm not surprised on the design. All
>         else equal,
>          >>>>                 I'd probably prefer the
>          >>>>                 > Rivian, but let's see how things
>         actually bare
>          >>>>                 out. What's the "mpg"
>          >>>>                 > compared to Rivian? I guess it'd be MPkWh?
>          >>>>                 >
>          >>>>                 >
>          >>>>                 >
>          >>>>                 >
>          >>>>                 >
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>          >>>>                 > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 9:25:31 AM
>          >>>>                 > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cybertruck
>          >>>>                 >
>          >>>>                 > I was expecting to see some comments
>         from this
>          >>>>                 crowd. Was everyone
>          >>>>                 > suitably underwhelmed?  Or running out
>         to place
>          >>>>                 your pre-orders?
>          >>>>                 >
>          >>>>                 > I think I saw one comment that it looked
>         like a
>          >>>>                 cross between an El
>          >>>>                 > Camino and a Pontiac Aztec.  It
>         certainly was not
>          >>>>                 what I expected when I
>          >>>>                 > heard Tesla was going to bring out an
>         electric
>          >>>>                 truck.  It sounds like
>          >>>>                 > the 3 motor version will indeed be fast,
>         but how
>          >>>>                 big a market is there
>          >>>>                 > for a  fast, expensive, ugly truck?
>         Maybe more
>          >>>>                 than I realize.
>          >>>>                 >
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