Maybe German cars come with stein holders?
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:54 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
I was just going by what Robert said as $8K, and I figured there were two of
them.
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On 11/22/2019 4:51 PM, Tim Hardy wrote:
Umm, Bill - fake news. Came in my 2016 Cayman GTS for nada…
On Nov 22, 2019, at 7:37 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com
<mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:
Yeah. Only $4K each.
bp
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On 11/22/2019 3:51 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
woah! you can get cupholders in a Porsche these days?!
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:30 PM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com
<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> > wrote:
Having gone through Porsche ordering hell, 8K gets you cupholders
finally, Sound system? More like 15...
On 11/22/2019 01:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Toyota is super nice when it comes to base models. I got a 4 cylinder
> Tacoma (should have gotten the v6, it's way too underpowered) base model
> and it has touchscreen with bluetooth. Power windows/locks/etc.
>
> Porsche on the other hand requires you have something like $8k in
> options for that feature. Another $2k if you want the bluetooth to do
> audio as well.
>
> Josh Luthman
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>
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> <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>
> <mailto:af...@ics-il.net <mailto:af...@ics-il.net> >> wrote:
>
> It was mostly a dig at the lowest priced option a manufacturer makes
> probably is missing a variety of features one is used to.
>
>
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> *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 2:53:33 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
>
> Yes Mike, it's a Toyota. Not Pontiac.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:51 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net
> <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>
> <mailto:af...@ics-il.net <mailto:af...@ics-il.net> >> wrote:
>
> Does a $30k truck come with AC? Power windows? Radio?
>
>
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> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> >>
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> *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 2:49:15 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
>
> OK... and? Still a far cry from $40 or $50.
>
> On 11/22/19 3:42 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
> > That's $32,780...
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 2:35 PM Matt Hoppes
> > <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> >
> > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> >>> wrote:
> >
> > That’s the current model.
> >
> > Here’s the bill of sale:
> >
> > image1.jpeg
> >
> > On Nov 22, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Josh Luthman
> > <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> That's $36k, 20% more...
> >>
> >> Josh Luthman
> >> Office: 937-552-2340
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 1:08 PM Matt Hoppes
> >> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> >
> >> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >> I’ll get you the bill of sale when I get back to the
> office.
> >>
> >> Brand new 2018 Tundra. 100 miles. Never owned. No issue.
> >>
> >> Here’s a comparably equipped 2019 for $34k.
> >>
> >> <image1.png>
> >>
> >> On Nov 22, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman
> >> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >
> >> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> You think a truck would have sat on the lot for a
> year?
> >>> Tundras don't sell well, but I don't think they sell
> >>> remarkably bad.
> >>>
> >>> Josh Luthman
> >>> Office: 937-552-2340
> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>> Suite 1337
> >>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:38 PM Robert
> >>> <i...@avantwireless.com <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>
> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> >
> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>
> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> >>>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Last year lot sitter, sure....
> >>>
> >>> On 11/22/19 9:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> >>>> I seriously doubt you got a new, untitled,
> Tundra for
> >>>> $30k, Especially with options. There's no
> way they're
> >>>> doing a 10%+ discount for you or anyone else
> with a
> >>>> single quantity purchase. I'll believe 30k
> when I see
> >>>> the bill of sale.
> >>>>
> >>>> Josh Luthman
> >>>> Office: 937-552-2340
> >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >>>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>>> Suite 1337
> >>>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:57 AM Matt Hoppes
> >>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> >
> >>>> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I absolutely know what trucks cost and
> $50-$60k is
> >>>> way too much. We
> >>>> purchased a brand new Toyota Tundra two
> years ago
> >>>> for $30k... outfitted
> >>>> well.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 11/22/19 10:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> >>>> > To be consistent with my feelings on
> their semi
> >>>> truck, as long as the
> >>>> > performance, specifications,
> reliability, utility
> >>>> are as promised, I
> >>>> > care much less about how it appears.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > That $40k price point is nice, though
> I'd want at
> >>>> least the $50k to have
> >>>> > AWD.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I've seen people say stuff like, "OMG,
> that too
> >>>> much money for a truck."
> >>>> > Clearly they have no idea what trucks
> cost. I
> >>>> haven't seen what the
> >>>> > electric ATV costs.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I also wonder what else changes between
> the tiers.
> >>>> Adding more motors
> >>>> > shouldn't add to the range of the
> vehicle, so
> >>>> what's happening with the
> >>>> > battery, weight, etc. Adding more batteries
> >>>> shouldn't make it faster, so
> >>>> > what's up with the extra motors?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I'm more willing to admit I don't need
> to pull a
> >>>> house with my daily
> >>>> > driver because I can always get
> something from the
> >>>> farm. I just want it
> >>>> > to be big enough to handle most things.
> Hell, even
> >>>> the 14k towing would
> >>>> > be enough for our Bobcat and trailer.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I wonder how trailers work with the
> EVs... how
> >>>> easy is it to add (or
> >>>> > get the option for) gooseneck, fifth
> wheel, etc.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I do like the hard, lockable tonneau
> cover. Maybe
> >>>> Rivian had it
> >>>> > available and I just forgot. Nice place
> to store a
> >>>> bunch of tools for a
> >>>> > work truck, though no place to add a
> ladder rack.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I was annoyed they didn't have battery
> specs, but
> >>>> I suppose that could
> >>>> > still be fuzzy. Maybe they don't know if
> they need
> >>>> 100 or 110 kw to meet
> >>>> > their advertised performance numbers.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Weight would be nice to know as well.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I'm not surprised on the design. All
> else equal,
> >>>> I'd probably prefer the
> >>>> > Rivian, but let's see how things
> actually bare
> >>>> out. What's the "mpg"
> >>>> > compared to Rivian? I guess it'd be MPkWh?
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
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> >>>> > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 9:25:31 AM
> >>>> > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cybertruck
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I was expecting to see some comments
> from this
> >>>> crowd. Was everyone
> >>>> > suitably underwhelmed? Or running out
> to place
> >>>> your pre-orders?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I think I saw one comment that it looked
> like a
> >>>> cross between an El
> >>>> > Camino and a Pontiac Aztec. It
> certainly was not
> >>>> what I expected when I
> >>>> > heard Tesla was going to bring out an
> electric
> >>>> truck. It sounds like
> >>>> > the 3 motor version will indeed be fast,
> but how
> >>>> big a market is there
> >>>> > for a fast, expensive, ugly truck?
> Maybe more
> >>>> than I realize.
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