Not expensive as long as you are 1) never going to need more than 4 wires for 
data
2) always going to have the same polarity on one side.

From: Carl Peterson 
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 9:53 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] will reverse POE fry an M5 Nanostation?

If you had a diode bridge in the surge suppressor on the side of the house it 
would protect from that.  You could use either Cambium or ubnt POE and either 
Cambium or UBNT CPE.  Not that I'd expect Chuck to add it, but what would it 
cost to add to your PCB that fits in the 600SS case? 
 

On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 8:50 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

  That wouldn’t protect against a customer driving to his other house and 
bringing a different type of POE and plugging it in.  I think that falls under 
the category of “it’s impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are 
so ingenious”.



  The answer probably would be to be consistent across all CPE, e.g. use ePMP 
instead of Nanostations, unfortunately that was not an option when we first 
started doing it this way.  For the manufacturers, I believe there are a few 
products that have a diode bridge on the power input so they are polarity 
agnostic.  Again, that doesn’t help already deployed links.



  Scarier yet, we used to have some WiMAX CPEs that used 48V POE.  Cambium also 
has 450i SMs that take a 48V CPE, what the %$#@ was somebody thinking?  That’s 
a disaster waiting to happen.  Maybe given the price they don’t expect anyone 
to actually buy them.





  From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Carl Peterson
  Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 8:18 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] will reverse POE fry an M5 Nanostation?



  Would it be possible to add diodes in-line?  i.e with a dongle 



  On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 8:14 AM Nate Burke <[email protected]> wrote:

    If it's a current limiting supply like any of the modern POE Injectors, 
    then I don't think there's usually a problem, if it's a direct 
    connection like a battery, then yes, it releases the magic smoke.  But 
    the Cambium radios would do that too if you reverse the polarity with a 
    battery pack, years ago we had an installer who never paid attention to 
    the polarity, he fried several FSK Radios.

    On 12/3/2019 6:52 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
    > It usually fries them when we use our battery packs and get the 
    > polarity wrong.
    >
    > Ken Hohhof wrote:
    >>
    >> I have a customer who plugged an M series Nanostation Loco into a 
    >> reverse polarity POE intended for a Cambium SM. (long story)
    >>
    >> Anybody know if this means the Nanostation is fried?  I’m guessing yes.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >


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