Attaining and keeping the higher modulations is a matter of system gain and proper design, but this radio is seriously lacking in gain when compared to other radios. For example, at 80 MHz bandwidth, the AF-11’s system gain at 1024 QAM is 70.5 dBm, the WTM 4200’s system gain at 1024 QAM is 86.0 dBm and at 4096 QAM its 77.5 dBm.
BTW, below 16 QAM the AF-11 does not meet FCC minimum bits/Hz requirements and that’s why coordinators are not licensing QPSK and legally it should not be used. > On Jan 9, 2020, at 1:23 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well, the efficiency isn't quite that bad. at 1024QAM (they actually do > support 2048QAM now too) they can do somewhere around 350-375Mbps per > polarity using a 56mhz channel, which is about the same as what our old SAF > Lumina can do at 256QAM... of course if you figure that as an 80mhz channel, > rather than 56mhz, it's pretty bad. I'm pretty sure that it doesn't meet the > FCC efficiency requirements at the lowest modulations, but you'd have to have > a pretty poorly engineered link for that to be a problem. > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 11:50 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > If I remember right the biggest spectral efficiency problem with the AF-11x > is that it uses both polarizations yet only gets the throughput of a single > pol link. Could be difficult to license if you can’t get both polarizations. > Good news, if you’re successful getting the license, you should be able to > modify the license and upgrade to a true 1.3+ Gbps full duplex radio from > SIAE, Aviat, Cambium, etc. Bad news, if you’re pushing the distance such > that you can’t run 1024QAM or better most of the time, you may not meet the > FCC minimum spectral efficiency requirement. > > > > From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf > Of Mathew Howard > Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 11:28 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti AF-11x licensed links > > > > Yeah, but the AF11 actually has to use an 80mhz emission designator, even > though it's really only using 56mhz... so theoretically, if you upgrade the > link to radios that can handle 80mhz, you shouldn't have any problems > licensing it. > > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 11:11 AM Daniel White <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > You license an emission designatior... not a channel per se. > > When you license 56MHz of spectrum you use the 80MHz channel plan but there > isn't 24MHz of unused spectrum sitting there... it gets used up pretty > quickly for other paths, etc. > > So moral of the story... don't do that. > > > > > > Daniel White > Co-Founder & Managing Director of Operations > > phone: +1 (702) 470-2766 > direct: +1 (702) 470-2770 > > 3172 N Rainbow Blvd PMB 20394 > Las Vegas, Nevada 89108 > > <https://www.facebook.com/getatheral/> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpPZv-EsGCj8LXfzylwCrjQ> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/atheral/> > > > > Seth Mattinen wrote on 1/8/20 09:54: > > > On 1/8/20 8:36 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > > > if you have an 80mhz channel and are running radios in 56mhz channel width > can u just put a 2nd link up and split them up to the two 40mhz? > > > > No, that's not allowed. You need to license two 40MHz channels. > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com>-- > AF mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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