Yes, once you get your first one configured its not bad, I had an issue as well with the first link.
Erich Kaiser North Central Tower [email protected] Office: 815-570-3101 On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 8:45 AM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: > Support. > > One thing about the IP20/PTP820 is that it's not obvious how to configure > it correctly. Plan to spend some time with the manuals or plan to call > support. I put in a ticket to Cambium support and they set my link up for > me and I didn't have to do anything and never had to touch it since. --and > I ended up paying about the same price as I would have paid Ceragon. I > don't know what Ceragon support is like in general, but when I called them > about an IP10 some years ago and I didn't have a support contract they > wouldn't even provide firmware. I'm sure they're awesome when you pay them. > > > On 1/9/2020 8:44 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: > > PTP820 - why buy from Cambium instead of direct from Ceragon? > > On Jan 9, 2020, at 8:42 PM, Erich Kaiser <[email protected]> > wrote: > > 56mhz throughput data capacities vs 80mhz throughput data capacities is a > significant factor. Plus can the AF11 do ACCP (Unless yo use 2 dishes or a > custom combiner)? We had a link recently with only 80mhz channels > available on vertical. Getting to 4096 QAM is not easy on longer links > (Probably anything over 4-5miles) IMO. I am a huge fan of Ceragon > IP/20/Cambium PTP820 very reliable radios with a great feature set. The > only thing they are missing is a SFP+ port (Which I believe is coming on a > new version) > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 7:27 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The efficiency is a dumpster fire. 256 QAM radios have about the same >> spectral efficiency. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> >> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> >> *Sent: *Thursday, January 9, 2020 12:23:41 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti AF-11x licensed links >> >> Well, the efficiency isn't quite that bad. at 1024QAM (they actually do >> support 2048QAM now too) they can do somewhere around 350-375Mbps per >> polarity using a 56mhz channel, which is about the same as what our old SAF >> Lumina can do at 256QAM... of course if you figure that as an 80mhz >> channel, rather than 56mhz, it's pretty bad. I'm pretty sure that it >> doesn't meet the FCC efficiency requirements at the lowest modulations, but >> you'd have to have a pretty poorly engineered link for that to be a problem. >> >> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 11:50 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> If I remember right the biggest spectral efficiency problem with the >>> AF-11x is that it uses both polarizations yet only gets the throughput of a >>> single pol link. Could be difficult to license if you can’t get both >>> polarizations. Good news, if you’re successful getting the license, you >>> should be able to modify the license and upgrade to a true 1.3+ Gbps full >>> duplex radio from SIAE, Aviat, Cambium, etc. Bad news, if you’re pushing >>> the distance such that you can’t run 1024QAM or better most of the time, >>> you may not meet the FCC minimum spectral efficiency requirement. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 9, 2020 11:28 AM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti AF-11x licensed links >>> >>> >>> >>> Yeah, but the AF11 actually has to use an 80mhz emission designator, >>> even though it's really only using 56mhz... so theoretically, if you >>> upgrade the link to radios that can handle 80mhz, you shouldn't have any >>> problems licensing it. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 11:11 AM Daniel White <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> You license an emission designatior... not a channel per se. >>> >>> When you license 56MHz of spectrum you use the 80MHz channel plan but >>> there isn't 24MHz of unused spectrum sitting there... it gets used up >>> pretty quickly for other paths, etc. >>> >>> So moral of the story... don't do that. >>> >>> >>> >>> [image: photograph] >>> >>> >>> *Daniel White *Co-Founder & Managing Director of Operations >>> >>> *phone:* +1 (702) 470-2766 >>> *direct:* +1 (702) 470-2770 >>> >>> 3172 N Rainbow Blvd PMB 20394 >>> Las Vegas, Nevada 89108 >>> >>> [image: facebook icon] <https://www.facebook.com/getatheral/> [image: >>> youtube icon] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpPZv-EsGCj8LXfzylwCrjQ> >>> [image: linkedin icon] <https://www.linkedin.com/company/atheral/> >>> >>> >>> >>> Seth Mattinen wrote on 1/8/20 09:54: >>> >>> On 1/8/20 8:36 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: >>> >>> if you have an 80mhz channel and are running radios in 56mhz channel >>> width can u just put a 2nd link up and split them up to the two 40mhz? >>> >>> >>> >>> No, that's not allowed. 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