It's extremist to accuse me and people like me of wanting a tragic outcome,
ie to want people to suffer and die.  Please keep your extremist right wing
BS off this list.

"If the left gets what they want, a tragic outcome to blame on the current
executive" <-- This BS has no place on this list.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:51 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Its extremist to not buy into the hype, its extremist to know what it
> would actually take to contain it if the hype were true? Pick a team Carl.
> how would you stop people from flooding out of a major urban area like
> chicago? just politely ask them to stay? A quarantine is a nothing in
> nothing out, literally the entire point. Or are you fine with letting
> people in a quarantine have the choice?
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:19 AM Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Jesus Christ Steve, could you please drop this BS!  It is insulting and
>> pretty disgusting.  Keep your extremist BS on some right wing troll list.
>> It doesn't belong here.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:14 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> a serious question, are they going to delay the census? Seems to me if
>>> this is as infectious as the media would like you to believe that having
>>> people going door to door in communities wouldnt be such a great idea.
>>>
>>> If the left gets what they want, a tragic outcome to blame on the
>>> current executive, they may have to accept the consequence, less house of
>>> rep seats since they get their seats from cities, and cities is what
>>> plagues decimate.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:09 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Brilliant!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe send them via cruise ship.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 10:04 AM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We could just send anyone with this bug to China.  Problem solved.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>>>>
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 9:00 AM
>>>>
>>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe they can send it to us.  Today for the first time I heard the
>>>> term “surge capacity” applied to hospital beds.  Person was saying US
>>>> healthcare industry has made hospitals efficient same way as airlines, aim
>>>> for zero empty beds, with the result that there’s not much surge capacity.
>>>> Let’s hope somebody’s looking at ways to open up more facilities in areas
>>>> where outbreaks happen.  The Chinese weren’t stupid with their modular
>>>> approach to quickly creating a field hospital.  Reminds me of MASH.  Time
>>>> for a bug out!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I did a quick Google search for “hospital surge capacity” and the first
>>>> page of results were mostly studies after Katrina.  A hurricane is worse
>>>> because it closes down hospitals and pharmacies, eliminating capacity.
>>>> With the coronavirus what I suspect we need to guard against is infecting
>>>> all the hospital staff and first responders so they get quarantined.  This
>>>> appears to be happening with that nursing home in Kirkland, Washington.  25
>>>> firefighters are now quarantined as a precaution because they had been to
>>>> that facility.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 8:44 AM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chinas closing their first hospital they built since they dont have
>>>> enough patients
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 8:42 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Perish the thought! 3-hour-old baguettes! I would rather die from
>>>> COVID-19 before eating an old baguette!
>>>>
>>>> If I smoke another cigarette, I can aggravate my COPD and hasten the
>>>> end.
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>>
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/2/2020 5:57 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well, the French are screwed, they don’t even stock food for tonight’s
>>>> dinner.  Because who wants to eat 2 hour old baguettes.  Probably the only
>>>> thing in their pantry is cigarettes and wine.  But at least if these are
>>>> the end times, they have cigarettes and wine while they watch the end.  Who
>>>> cares about Spam and Vienna sausages.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 6:25 AM
>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You need the disaster to occur to justify all your preparation.  Some
>>>> part of you is rooting for it.
>>>>
>>>> Just a hypothesis.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/1/2020 10:15 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>> i never understood it, on the right, we tend to be the most prepared.
>>>> most of the die hard preppers are right minded. we tend to be the most
>>>> capable of utilizing primal tools and food/water sources. if it goes
>>>> boogity, we have the best firepower and ammunition and training. so i never
>>>> understood why people on the right get very nervous about these things. a
>>>> lot like devout christians worying about end times and rapture.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 8:09 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My oldest home - again son is much worse than you guys.  He is very alt
>>>> right too.  He might be Alex Jones... I have never seen them both at the
>>>> same place at the same time.  He is certain Kung flu is gonna get us all.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies <m...@mailmt.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  On a side note.  Thanks for letting me rant and rave here.  Can't do
>>>> it at home, wife just rolls eyes and tells me I'm a grumpy old man.  Chuck,
>>>> I know you are saving me a few $ in therapy.  So, Thank You.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>>> <m...@mailmt.com>
>>>>
>>>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
>>>> www.Myakka.com
>>>>
>>>> ------
>>>>
>>>> Sunday, March 1, 2020, 7:47:53 PM, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>> OK, maybe this is hysterical reporting (it’s from Washington Post after
>>>> all), but sounds kind of science-y.
>>>>
>>>> The novel coronavirus has probably been spreading undetected for about
>>>> six weeks in Washington state, where the first U.S. death was reported this
>>>> weekend. A genetic analysis suggests that the cases are linked through
>>>> community transmission and that this has been going on for weeks, with
>>>> hundreds of infections likely in the state.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 6:21 PM
>>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>>>>
>>>> Must be a Florida thing, or a Walmart thing.  I have not seen news
>>>> reports anything close to “we are all going to die”.
>>>>
>>>> And I just stopped at the grocery store, no signs at all of people
>>>> buying up all the Lysol and Purell.  I did buy a couple of the pump bottles
>>>> of foaming hand soap we like, but the shelf was full.  News reports have
>>>> said wash your hands and that it’s good advice for seasonal flu as well, I
>>>> don’t think that’s doomsday advice.
>>>>
>>>> I have not checked Walmart, maybe things are all crazy there (as
>>>> usual).  Actually I have to admit that I recently discovered the steaks
>>>> from Walmart are actually pretty good, they were branded Tyson Fresh Meats.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mark - Myakka
>>>> Technologies
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 5:53 PM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>>>>
>>>> There are only a few things we know for sure.
>>>>
>>>> 1. It is already in the US
>>>> 2. More people in the US will get it
>>>> 3. More people in the US will die.
>>>>
>>>> Anything other than this is pure speculation at this point.  We don't
>>>> know anything about this virus.  Most everything I hear or read about this
>>>> virus starts off with the equivalent of "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE".  But if
>>>> you bother to listen or read the article, it always has "may" or "some
>>>> experts".  The current official incubation period is 2-14 days, but hey
>>>> lets just report 14 days and base all our models on this and report it as
>>>> the most likely scenario.  We don't know how long it lives on surfaces.  We
>>>> don't know how it reacts to UV light.  We don't know how it will do in
>>>> warm/humid conditions.
>>>>
>>>> My opinion (just as valid as anyone else's),  This virus has been in
>>>> the states before the first reported case.  People have had it and
>>>> recovered thinking it was just the flu. Not everyone exposed is going to
>>>> get it.  Not everyone who gets it is going to need to be hospitalized.  Not
>>>> everyone who gets hospitalized will die.
>>>>
>>>> The media once again is doing us a huge dis-service. They are hyping
>>>> this thing  way out of proportion.  Was at Wal-mart yesterday. Every can of
>>>> Lysol or Lysol type of product was gone.  Every package of disinfectant
>>>> wipes were gone.  Every bottle of any sized hand sanitizer, gone.  Crazy.
>>>> The closest reported "maybe" case is over 1300 miles away.  God forbid we
>>>> get a reported case in Florida, what will happen then?  Going to start
>>>> burning and looting?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>>> <m...@mailmt.com>
>>>>
>>>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
>>>> www.Myakka.com
>>>>
>>>> ------
>>>>
>>>> Sunday, March 1, 2020, 3:55:47 PM, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am not a doctor. I don't even play one on TV or any podcasts or
>>>> blogs. I do pay attention to as much scientifically-based information I can
>>>> find though.
>>>> This is a pretty good synopsis on our current knowledge without any
>>>> spin:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Nazis are socialists.  Bernie is a socialist.  Therefore Bernie is a
>>>> Nazi.  So the Internet says.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2020 10:48 AM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
>>>> <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>>>>
>>>> thats the secret, remember russia shafted the nazis last time... russia
>>>> is in asia, so russians are asians. Taking them out of the running too....
>>>> Weve said too much
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Nazis also hate Communists.  It all fits.
>>>>
>>>> On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. This is obviously genetically
>>>> designed to target Asians. The proof is that 99% of infections are asians.
>>>> Obviously this is the resurgence of the Nazi party trying to eliminate a
>>>> majority of the population so they can initiate another run at global
>>>> domination. My neighbors mom, Karen told me that her friend, carols husband
>>>> Brad told her that he heard that this is what brexit was all about. Germany
>>>> and Great Britian are forming an alliance now. Its all hush hush, but there
>>>> is a shadow government of guess what... Nazis.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You mean.....Nazi's created Coronavirus?
>>>>
>>>> On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>> > I'm waiting for Godwin...
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > bp
>>>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>> >
>>>> > On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>>> >> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is
>>>> a
>>>> >> "conspiracy".
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has
>>>> the
>>>> >> whole picture of what happened until more time passes. In the
>>>> interim
>>>> >> there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch
>>>> >> onto early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they
>>>> >> won't let go of them.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong
>>>> Kong
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I
>>>> >> mean that one's obviously a joke.....right?)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival
>>>> bunkers.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or
>>>> >> maybe they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all
>>>> >> information so they're reporting what they think is true at the time
>>>> >> it's said, or maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>> >>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual
>>>> >>> infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel
>>>> >>> Coronavirus appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not
>>>> >>> particularly deadly.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
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