FEMA has a ton of resources ready for emergencies and they circulate
their stock. The medical system does not. Because its made up of a
lot of independent hospitals bent on profit. So the CDC or some other
federal agency needs to fit the bill and have non perishable stuff in
stock. If something like this ever hit the US they will be unprepared
supply wise. Most of the stuff isn't even made here so by the time they
refit plants to produce it may be too late.
I mean hell they ordered those millions and millions of rounds of
ammunition (including hollow points) during the Obama admin. Sounds
like one agency thinks ahead!
--
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Network Operations Manager
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*From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
*To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com>
*Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2020 1:07:55 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
You think they should have 3 billion dollars worth of masks on hand at
all times? I cant imagine the resources to manage that inventory, let
alone cycle it out. One mouse could do a lot of damage
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 11:39 AM Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org
<mailto:st...@wavedirect.org>> wrote:
No I mean if they are low on supply - then they are unprepared!
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Steven Kenney
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(519)737-WAVE (9283)
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*From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
*To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2020 12:24:24 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
The surgeon general warning says not to buy them because they dont
work. Thats an odd duck announcement. they dont fit a larger
percentage of the population, half the people you see in them have a
gap by their noses, which means theyre trapping the virus inside the
mask. and if youre not going to shave, dont even bother. Same reason
firemen have mustaches and not beards
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 11:21 AM Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org
<mailto:st...@wavedirect.org>> wrote:
Apparently MUM has been canceled because of the panic.
--
Steven Kenney
Network Operations Manager
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http://www.wavedirect.net
(519)737-WAVE (9283)
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*From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
*To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2020 12:02:40 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
I think this topic has \lent
but anybody watching this:
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On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 11:01 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
It does seem like it would please some of them.
But we are in the middle of Lent right now, right?
*From:* Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 9:55 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
Steve, the extremist part is where you think "the left"
wants a tragic outcome.
On 3/2/2020 11:49 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
Its extremist to not buy into the hype, its extremist to
know what it would actually take to contain it if the
hype were true? Pick a team Carl.
how would you stop people from flooding out of a major
urban area like chicago? just politely ask them to stay?
A quarantine is a nothing in nothing out, literally the
entire point. Or are you fine with letting people in a
quarantine have the choice?
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:19 AM Carl Peterson
<cpeter...@portnetworks.com
<mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com>> wrote:
Jesus Christ Steve, could you please drop this BS!
It is insulting and pretty disgusting. Keep your
extremist BS on some right wing troll list. It
doesn't belong here.
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:14 AM Steve Jones
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
a serious question, are they going to delay the
census? Seems to me if this is as infectious as
the media would like you to believe that having
people going door to door in communities wouldnt
be such a great idea.
If the left gets what they want, a tragic
outcome to blame on the current executive, they
may have to accept the consequence, less house
of rep seats since they get their seats from
cities, and cities is what plagues decimate.
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:09 AM Ken Hohhof
<af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
Brilliant!
Maybe send them via cruise ship.
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf
Of *ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
*Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 10:04 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
<af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
We could just send anyone with this bug to
China. Problem solved.
*From:*Ken Hohhof
*Sent:*Monday, March 2, 2020 9:00 AM
*To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
Maybe they can send it to us. Today for the
first time I heard the term “surge capacity”
applied to hospital beds. Person was saying
US healthcare industry has made hospitals
efficient same way as airlines, aim for zero
empty beds, with the result that there’s not
much surge capacity. Let’s hope somebody’s
looking at ways to open up more facilities
in areas where outbreaks happen. The
Chinese weren’t stupid with their modular
approach to quickly creating a field
hospital. Reminds me of MASH. Time for a
bug out!
I did a quick Google search for “hospital
surge capacity” and the first page of
results were mostly studies after Katrina.
A hurricane is worse because it closes down
hospitals and pharmacies, eliminating
capacity. With the coronavirus what I
suspect we need to guard against is
infecting all the hospital staff and first
responders so they get quarantined. This
appears to be happening with that nursing
home in Kirkland, Washington. 25
firefighters are now quarantined as a
precaution because they had been to that
facility.
*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf
Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 8:44 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
<af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
Chinas closing their first hospital they
built since they dont have enough patients
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 8:42 AM Bill Prince
<part15...@gmail.com
<mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Perish the thought! 3-hour-old
baguettes! I would rather die from
COVID-19 before eating an old baguette!
If I smoke another cigarette, I can
aggravate my COPD and hasten the end.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 3/2/2020 5:57 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Well, the French are screwed, they
don’t even stock food for tonight’s
dinner. Because who wants to eat 2
hour old baguettes. Probably the
only thing in their pantry is
cigarettes and wine. But at least
if these are the end times, they
have cigarettes and wine while they
watch the end. Who cares about Spam
and Vienna sausages.
*From:*AF
mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 6:25 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
You need the disaster to occur to
justify all your preparation. Some
part of you is rooting for it.
Just a hypothesis.
On 3/1/2020 10:15 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
i never understood it, on the
right, we tend to be the most
prepared. most of the die hard
preppers are right minded. we
tend to be the most capable of
utilizing primal tools and
food/water sources. if it goes
boogity, we have the best
firepower and ammunition and
training. so i never understood
why people on the right get very
nervous about these things. a
lot like devout christians
worying about end times and rapture.
On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 8:09 PM
Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
My oldest home - again son
is much worse than you
guys. He is very alt right
too. He might be Alex
Jones... I have never seen
them both at the same place
at the same time. He is
certain Kung flu is gonna
get us all.
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 1, 2020, at 6:14
PM, Mark - Myakka
Technologies
<m...@mailmt.com
<mailto:m...@mailmt.com>> wrote:
On a side note. Thanks
for letting me rant and
rave here. Can't do it
at home, wife just rolls
eyes and tells me I'm a
grumpy old man. Chuck, I
know you are saving me a
few $ in therapy. So,
Thank You.
--
Best regards,
Mark
mailto:m...@mailmt.com
<mailto:m...@mailmt.com>
Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.Myakka.com
<http://www.Myakka.com>
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Sunday, March 1, 2020,
7:47:53 PM, you wrote:
OK, maybe this is
hysterical reporting
(it’s from Washington
Post after all), but
sounds kind of science-y.
The novel coronavirus
has probably been
spreading undetected for
about six weeks in
Washington state, where
the first U.S. death was
reported this weekend. A
genetic analysis
suggests that the cases
are linked through
community transmission
and that this has been
going on for weeks, with
hundreds of infections
likely in the state.
*From:* AF
<af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>>
*On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Sunday, March 1,
2020 6:21 PM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm
Microwave Users Group'
<af@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]
OT: Corona-fu
Must be a Florida thing,
or a Walmart thing. I
have not seen news
reports anything close
to “we are all going to
die”.
And I just stopped at
the grocery store, no
signs at all of people
buying up all the Lysol
and Purell. I did buy a
couple of the pump
bottles of foaming hand
soap we like, but the
shelf was full. News
reports have said wash
your hands and that it’s
good advice for seasonal
flu as well, I don’t
think that’s doomsday
advice.
I have not checked
Walmart, maybe things
are all crazy there (as
usual). Actually I have
to admit that I recently
discovered the steaks
from Walmart are
actually pretty good,
they were branded Tyson
Fresh Meats.
*From:* AF
<af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>>
*On Behalf Of *Mark -
Myakka Technologies
*Sent:* Sunday, March 1,
2020 5:53 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm
Microwave Users Group
<af@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]
OT: Corona-fu
There are only a few
things we know for sure.
1. It is already in the US
2. More people in the US
will get it
3. More people in the US
will die.
Anything other than this
is pure speculation at
this point. We don't
know anything about this
virus. Most everything
I hear or read about
this virus starts off
with the equivalent of
"WE ARE ALL GOING TO
DIE". But if you bother
to listen or read the
article, it always has
"may" or "some
experts". The current
official incubation
period is 2-14 days, but
hey lets just report 14
days and base all our
models on this and
report it as the most
likely scenario. We
don't know how long it
lives on surfaces. We
don't know how it reacts
to UV light. We don't
know how it will do in
warm/humid conditions.
My opinion (just as
valid as anyone
else's), This virus has
been in the states
before the first
reported case. People
have had it and
recovered thinking it
was just the flu. Not
everyone exposed is
going to get it. Not
everyone who gets it is
going to need to be
hospitalized. Not
everyone who gets
hospitalized will die.
The media once again is
doing us a huge
dis-service. They are
hyping this thing way
out of proportion. Was
at Wal-mart yesterday.
Every can of Lysol or
Lysol type of product
was gone. Every package
of disinfectant wipes
were gone. Every bottle
of any sized hand
sanitizer, gone.
Crazy. The closest
reported "maybe" case is
over 1300 miles away.
God forbid we get a
reported case in
Florida, what will
happen then? Going to
start burning and looting?
--
Best regards,
Mark
mailto:m...@mailmt.com
<mailto:m...@mailmt.com>
Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.Myakka.com
<http://www.Myakka.com>
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Sunday, March 1, 2020,
3:55:47 PM, you wrote:
I am not a doctor. I
don't even play one on
TV or any podcasts or
blogs. I do pay
attention to as much
scientifically-based
information I can find
though.
This is a pretty good
synopsis on our current
knowledge without any spin:
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM,
Ken Hohhof wrote:
Nazis are socialists.
Bernie is a socialist.
Therefore Bernie is a
Nazi. So the Internet says.
*From:*AF
mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
*On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Monday, February
10, 2020 10:48 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm
Microwave Users Group
mailto:af@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]
OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT
stock)
thats the secret,
remember russia shafted
the nazis last time...
russia is in asia, so
russians are asians.
Taking them out of the
running too.... Weve
said too much
On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at
10:45 AM Adam Moffett
<dmmoff...@gmail.com
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
Nazis also hate
Communists. It all fits.
On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM,
Steve Jones wrote:
Im suprised that hasnt
gotten traction. This is
obviously genetically
designed to target
Asians. The proof is
that 99% of infections
are asians. Obviously
this is the resurgence
of the Nazi party trying
to eliminate a majority
of the population so
they can initiate
another run at global
domination. My neighbors
mom, Karen told me that
her friend, carols
husband Brad told her
that he heard that this
is what brexit was all
about. Germany and Great
Britian are forming an
alliance now. Its all
hush hush, but there is
a shadow government of
guess what... Nazis.
On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at
10:33 AM Adam Moffett
<dmmoff...@gmail.com
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
You mean.....Nazi's
created Coronavirus?
On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM,
Bill Prince wrote:
> I'm waiting for Godwin...
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM,
Adam Moffett wrote:
>> The thing driving me nuts
right now is that
literally everything is a
>> "conspiracy".
>>
>> Sometimes stuff happens,
nobody
did it on purpose, and
nobody has the
>> whole picture of what
happened until more
time passes. In the interim
>> there's a lot of conflicting
information
going around. People latch
>> onto early bits of
information that turn
out to be wrong and they
>> won't let go of them.
>>
>> Coronavirus was created by
the Chinese
to distract press from
Hong Kong
>>
>> Coronavirus was created by
the USA
to defeat China in a
trade war
>>
>> Coronavirus was created by
Budweiser
to discredit Mexican
Lager (I
>> mean that one's obviously a
joke.....right?)
>>
>> Coronavirus will kill us
all and we must all
stock our survival bunkers.
>>
>> China is hiding all the
information
about Coronavirus.
Really? Or
>> maybe they just don't have a
live real-time
omniscient feed of all
>> information so they're
reporting what they think is true
at the time
>> it's said, or maybe
rumors on Facebook
aren't all true.
>>
>> See Hanlon's Razor and
Occam's Razor.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM,
Bill Prince wrote:
>>> Starting a new thread to
make this discussion off
topic.
>>>
>>> I had my flu shot BTW. No
fever here.
>>>
>>> Still zero reported deaths
in the
US, and only about a
dozen actual
>>> infections. I am still
thinking this is
not a big deal. Novel
>>> Coronavirus appears to be
more infectious than SARS,
but not
>>> particularly deadly.
>>>
>>
>
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