panic->prudence  Were you planning on going?

On 03/02/2020 09:20 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
Apparently MUM has been canceled because of the panic.

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*From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
*To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com>
*Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2020 12:02:40 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

I think this topic has \lent
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On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 11:01 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

    It does seem like it would please some of them.
    But we are in the middle of Lent right now, right?
    *From:* Adam Moffett
    *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 9:55 AM
    *To:* af@af.afmug.com
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

    Steve, the extremist part is where you think "the left" wants a
    tragic outcome.

    On 3/2/2020 11:49 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

        Its extremist to not buy into the hype, its extremist to know
        what it would actually take to contain it if the hype were true?
        Pick a team Carl.
        how would you stop people from flooding out of a major urban
        area like chicago? just politely ask them to stay? A quarantine
        is a nothing in nothing out, literally the entire point. Or are
        you fine with letting people in a quarantine have the choice?
        On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:19 AM Carl Peterson
        <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:

            Jesus Christ Steve, could you please drop this BS!  It is
            insulting and pretty disgusting.  Keep your extremist BS on
            some right wing troll list.  It doesn't belong here.
            On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:14 AM Steve Jones
            <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

                a serious question, are they going to delay the census?
                Seems to me if this is as infectious as the media would
                like you to believe that having people going door to
                door in communities wouldnt be such a great idea.
                If the left gets what they want, a tragic outcome to
                blame on the current executive, they may have to accept
                the consequence, less house of rep seats since they get
                their seats from cities, and cities is what plagues
                decimate.
                On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:09 AM Ken Hohhof
                <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

                    Brilliant!

                    Maybe send them via cruise ship.

                    *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of
                    *ch...@wbmfg.com
                    *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 10:04 AM
                    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
                    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

We could just send anyone with this bug to China. Problem solved.

                    *From:*Ken Hohhof

                    *Sent:*Monday, March 2, 2020 9:00 AM

                    *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'

                    *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

                    Maybe they can send it to us.  Today for the first
                    time I heard the term “surge capacity” applied to
                    hospital beds.  Person was saying US healthcare
                    industry has made hospitals efficient same way as
                    airlines, aim for zero empty beds, with the result
                    that there’s not much surge capacity.  Let’s hope
                    somebody’s looking at ways to open up more
                    facilities in areas where outbreaks happen.  The
                    Chinese weren’t stupid with their modular approach
                    to quickly creating a field hospital.  Reminds me of
                    MASH.  Time for a bug out!

                    I did a quick Google search for “hospital surge
                    capacity” and the first page of results were mostly
                    studies after Katrina.  A hurricane is worse because
                    it closes down hospitals and pharmacies, eliminating
                    capacity.  With the coronavirus what I suspect we
                    need to guard against is infecting all the hospital
                    staff and first responders so they get quarantined.
                    This appears to be happening with that nursing home
                    in Kirkland, Washington.  25 firefighters are now
                    quarantined as a precaution because they had been to
                    that facility.

                    *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of
                    *Steve Jones
                    *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 8:44 AM
                    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
                    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

                    Chinas closing their first hospital they built since
                    they dont have enough patients

                    On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 8:42 AM Bill Prince
                    <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

                        Perish the thought! 3-hour-old baguettes! I
                        would rather die from COVID-19 before eating an
                        old baguette!

                        If I smoke another cigarette, I can aggravate my
                        COPD and hasten the end.

                        bp

                        <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

                        On 3/2/2020 5:57 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

                            Well, the French are screwed, they don’t
                            even stock food for tonight’s dinner.
                            Because who wants to eat 2 hour old
                            baguettes.  Probably the only thing in their
                            pantry is cigarettes and wine.  But at least
                            if these are the end times, they have
                            cigarettes and wine while they watch the
                            end.  Who cares about Spam and Vienna sausages.

                            *From:*AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On
                            Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
                            *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 6:25 AM
                            *To:* af@af.afmug.com
                            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

                            You need the disaster to occur to justify
                            all your preparation.  Some part of you is
                            rooting for it.

                            Just a hypothesis.

                            On 3/1/2020 10:15 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

                                i never understood it, on the right, we
                                tend to be the most prepared. most of
                                the die hard preppers are right minded.
                                we tend to be the most capable of
                                utilizing primal tools and food/water
                                sources. if it goes boogity, we have the
                                best firepower and ammunition and
                                training. so i never understood why
                                people on the right get very nervous
                                about these things. a lot like devout
                                christians worying about end times and
                                rapture.

                                On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 8:09 PM Chuck
                                McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

                                    My oldest home - again son is much
                                    worse than you guys.  He is very alt
                                    right too.  He might be Alex
                                    Jones... I have never seen them both
at the same place at the same time. He is certain Kung flu is gonna get
                                    us all.

                                    Sent from my iPhone

                                        On Mar 1, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Mark
                                        - Myakka Technologies
                                        <m...@mailmt.com> wrote:

                                        On a side note.  Thanks for
letting me rant and rave here. Can't do it at home, wife just
                                        rolls eyes and tells me I'm a
                                        grumpy old man. Chuck, I know
                                        you are saving me a few $ in
                                        therapy.  So, Thank You.


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                                        Sunday, March 1, 2020, 7:47:53
                                        PM, you wrote:


                                                

                                        OK, maybe this is hysterical
                                        reporting (it’s from Washington
                                        Post after all), but sounds kind
                                        of science-y.

                                        The novel coronavirus has
                                        probably been spreading
                                        undetected for about six weeks
                                        in Washington state, where the
                                        first U.S. death was reported
                                        this weekend. A genetic analysis
                                        suggests that the cases are
                                        linked through community
                                        transmission and that this has
                                        been going on for weeks, with
                                        hundreds of infections likely in
                                        the state.


                                        *From:* AF
                                        <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
                                        Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
                                        *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020
                                        6:21 PM
                                        *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave
                                        Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
                                        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

                                        Must be a Florida thing, or a
                                        Walmart thing.  I have not seen
                                        news reports anything close to
                                        “we are all going to die”.

                                        And I just stopped at the
                                        grocery store, no signs at all
                                        of people buying up all the
                                        Lysol and Purell.  I did buy a
                                        couple of the pump bottles of
                                        foaming hand soap we like, but
                                        the shelf was full. News reports
                                        have said wash your hands and
                                        that it’s good advice for
                                        seasonal flu as well, I don’t
                                        think that’s doomsday advice.

                                        I have not checked Walmart,
                                        maybe things are all crazy there
                                        (as usual).  Actually I have to
                                        admit that I recently discovered
                                        the steaks from Walmart are
                                        actually pretty good, they were
                                        branded Tyson Fresh Meats.

                                        *From:* AF
                                        <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
                                        Behalf Of *Mark - Myakka
                                        Technologies
                                        *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020
                                        5:53 PM
                                        *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users
                                        Group <af@af.afmug.com>
                                        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

                                        There are only a few things we
                                        know for sure.

                                        1. It is already in the US
                                        2. More people in the US will get it
                                        3. More people in the US will die.

                                        Anything other than this is pure
                                        speculation at this point.  We
                                        don't know anything about this
                                        virus.  Most everything I hear
                                        or read about this virus starts
                                        off with the equivalent of "WE
                                        ARE ALL GOING TO DIE".  But if
                                        you bother to listen or read the
                                        article, it always has "may" or
                                        "some experts".  The current
                                        official incubation period is
                                        2-14 days, but hey lets just
                                        report 14 days and base all our
                                        models on this and report it as
                                        the most likely scenario.  We
                                        don't know how long it lives on
                                        surfaces.  We don't know how it
                                        reacts to UV light.  We don't
                                        know how it will do in
                                        warm/humid conditions.

                                        My opinion (just as valid as
                                        anyone else's),  This virus has
                                        been in the states before the
                                        first reported case.  People
                                        have had it and recovered
                                        thinking it was just the flu.
                                        Not everyone exposed is going to
                                        get it.  Not everyone who gets
                                        it is going to need to be
                                        hospitalized. Not everyone who
                                        gets hospitalized will die.

                                        The media once again is doing us
                                        a huge dis-service. They are
                                        hyping this thing  way out of
                                        proportion. Was at Wal-mart
                                        yesterday. Every can of Lysol or
Lysol type of product was gone. Every package of disinfectant
                                        wipes were gone.  Every bottle
                                        of any sized hand sanitizer,
                                        gone.  Crazy.  The closest
                                        reported "maybe" case is over
                                        1300 miles away.  God forbid we
                                        get a reported case in Florida,
                                        what will happen then?  Going to
                                        start burning and looting?


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                                        Sunday, March 1, 2020, 3:55:47
                                        PM, you wrote:


                                                

                                        I am not a doctor. I don't even
                                        play one on TV or any podcasts
                                        or blogs. I do pay attention to
                                        as much scientifically-based
                                        information I can find though.
                                        This is a pretty good synopsis
                                        on our current knowledge without
                                        any spin:
                                        
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you

                                        bp
                                        <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

                                        On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof
                                        wrote:


                                                

                                        Nazis are socialists.  Bernie is
                                        a socialist.  Therefore Bernie
                                        is a Nazi.  So the Internet says.

                                        *From:*AF
                                        mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
                                        *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
                                        *Sent:* Monday, February 10,
                                        2020 10:48 AM
                                        *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users
                                        Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
                                        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT:
                                        Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

                                        thats the secret, remember
                                        russia shafted the nazis last
                                        time... russia is in asia, so
                                        russians are asians. Taking them
                                        out of the running too.... Weve
                                        said too much

                                        On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM
                                        Adam Moffett
                                        <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:


                                                

                                        Nazis also hate Communists.  It
                                        all fits.

                                        On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve
                                        Jones wrote:


                                                

                                        Im suprised that hasnt gotten
                                        traction. This is obviously
                                        genetically designed to target
                                        Asians. The proof is that 99% of
                                        infections are asians. Obviously
                                        this is the resurgence of the
                                        Nazi party trying to eliminate a
                                        majority of the population so
                                        they can initiate another run at
                                        global domination. My neighbors
                                        mom, Karen told me that her
                                        friend, carols husband Brad told
                                        her that he heard that this is
                                        what brexit was all about.
                                        Germany and Great Britian are
                                        forming an alliance now. Its all
                                        hush hush, but there is a shadow
                                        government of guess what... Nazis.

                                        On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33 AM
                                        Adam Moffett
                                        <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:


                                                

                                        You mean.....Nazi's created
                                        Coronavirus?

                                        On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill
                                        Prince wrote:
                                        > I'm waiting for Godwin...
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > bp
                                        > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
                                        >
                                        > On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam
                                        Moffett wrote:
                                        >> The thing driving me nuts right now 
is that literally
                                        everything is a
                                        >> "conspiracy".
                                        >>
                                        >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did 
it on
                                        purpose, and nobody has the
                                        >> whole picture of what happened until 
more time
                                        passes. In the interim
                                        >> there's a lot of conflicting 
information going
                                        around. People latch
                                        >> onto early bits of information that 
turn out to be
                                        wrong and they
                                        >> won't let go of them.
                                        >>
                                        >> Coronavirus was created by the 
Chinese to
                                        distract press from Hong Kong
                                        >>
                                        >> Coronavirus was created by the USA 
to defeat
                                        China in a trade war
                                        >>
                                        >> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser 
to
                                        discredit Mexican Lager (I
                                        >> mean that one's obviously a 
joke.....right?)
                                        >>
                                        >> Coronavirus will kill us all and
                                        we must all stock our survival
                                        bunkers.
                                        >>
                                        >> China is hiding all the information 
about
                                        Coronavirus. Really? Or
                                        >> maybe they just don't have a live 
real-time omniscient
                                        feed of all
                                        >> information so they're reporting 
what they think is true at the time
                                        >> it's said, or maybe rumors on
                                        Facebook aren't all true.
                                        >>
                                        >> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
                                        >>
                                        >>
                                        >>
                                        >> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill
                                        Prince wrote:
                                        >>> Starting a new thread to make this 
discussion off topic.
                                        >>>
                                        >>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever 
here.
                                        >>>
                                        >>> Still zero reported deaths in the 
US, and
                                        only about a dozen actual
                                        >>> infections. I am still thinking 
this is not a big
                                        deal. Novel
                                        >>> Coronavirus appears to be more 
infectious than SARS, but not
                                        >>> particularly deadly.
                                        >>>
                                        >>
                                        >

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