No I mean if they are low on supply - then they are unprepared! 

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From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> 
To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com> 
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 12:24:24 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu 

The surgeon general warning says not to buy them because they dont work. Thats 
an odd duck announcement. they dont fit a larger percentage of the population, 
half the people you see in them have a gap by their noses, which means theyre 
trapping the virus inside the mask. and if youre not going to shave, dont even 
bother. Same reason firemen have mustaches and not beards 

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Apparently MUM has been canceled because of the panic. 

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From: "Steve Jones" < [ mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com | 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com ] > 
To: "af" < [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | af@af.afmug.com ] > 
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 12:02:40 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu 

I think this topic has \lent 
but anybody watching this: 
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On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 11:01 AM < [ mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com | ch...@wbmfg.com ] 
> wrote: 

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It does seem like it would please some of them. 
But we are in the middle of Lent right now, right? 
From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 9:55 AM 
To: [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | af@af.afmug.com ] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu 


Steve, the extremist part is where you think "the left" wants a tragic outcome. 



On 3/2/2020 11:49 AM, Steve Jones wrote: 

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Its extremist to not buy into the hype, its extremist to know what it would 
actually take to contain it if the hype were true? Pick a team Carl. 
how would you stop people from flooding out of a major urban area like chicago? 
just politely ask them to stay? A quarantine is a nothing in nothing out, 
literally the entire point. Or are you fine with letting people in a quarantine 
have the choice? 
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:19 AM Carl Peterson < [ 
mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com | cpeter...@portnetworks.com ] > wrote: 

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Jesus Christ Steve, could you please drop this BS! It is insulting and pretty 
disgusting. Keep your extremist BS on some right wing troll list. It doesn't 
belong here. 
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:14 AM Steve Jones < [ 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com | thatoneguyst...@gmail.com ] > wrote: 

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a serious question, are they going to delay the census? Seems to me if this is 
as infectious as the media would like you to believe that having people going 
door to door in communities wouldnt be such a great idea. 
If the left gets what they want, a tragic outcome to blame on the current 
executive, they may have to accept the consequence, less house of rep seats 
since they get their seats from cities, and cities is what plagues decimate. 
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:09 AM Ken Hohhof < [ mailto:af...@kwisp.com | 
af...@kwisp.com ] > wrote: 

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Brilliant! 



Maybe send them via cruise ship. 






From: AF < [ mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com | af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] > On 
Behalf Of [ mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com | ch...@wbmfg.com ] 
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 10:04 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | 
af@af.afmug.com ] > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu 





We could just send anyone with this bug to China. Problem solved. 





From: Ken Hohhof 


Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 9:00 AM 


To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 


Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu 





Maybe they can send it to us. Today for the first time I heard the term “surge 
capacity” applied to hospital beds. Person was saying US healthcare industry 
has made hospitals efficient same way as airlines, aim for zero empty beds, 
with the result that there’s not much surge capacity. Let’s hope somebody’s 
looking at ways to open up more facilities in areas where outbreaks happen. The 
Chinese weren’t stupid with their modular approach to quickly creating a field 
hospital. Reminds me of MASH. Time for a bug out! 



I did a quick Google search for “hospital surge capacity” and the first page of 
results were mostly studies after Katrina. A hurricane is worse because it 
closes down hospitals and pharmacies, eliminating capacity. With the 
coronavirus what I suspect we need to guard against is infecting all the 
hospital staff and first responders so they get quarantined. This appears to be 
happening with that nursing home in Kirkland, Washington. 25 firefighters are 
now quarantined as a precaution because they had been to that facility. 





From: AF < [ mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com | af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] > On 
Behalf Of Steve Jones 
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:44 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | 
af@af.afmug.com ] > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu 




Chinas closing their first hospital they built since they dont have enough 
patients 





On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 8:42 AM Bill Prince < [ mailto:part15...@gmail.com | 
part15...@gmail.com ] > wrote: 

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Perish the thought! 3-hour-old baguettes! I would rather die from COVID-19 
before eating an old baguette! 

If I smoke another cigarette, I can aggravate my COPD and hasten the end. 
bp 
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> 


On 3/2/2020 5:57 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: 

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Well, the French are screwed, they don’t even stock food for tonight’s dinner. 
Because who wants to eat 2 hour old baguettes. Probably the only thing in their 
pantry is cigarettes and wine. But at least if these are the end times, they 
have cigarettes and wine while they watch the end. Who cares about Spam and 
Vienna sausages. 




From: AF mailto: [ mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com | af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] 
On Behalf Of Adam Moffett 
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 6:25 AM 
To: [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | af@af.afmug.com ] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu 




You need the disaster to occur to justify all your preparation. Some part of 
you is rooting for it. 

Just a hypothesis. 




On 3/1/2020 10:15 PM, Steve Jones wrote: 

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i never understood it, on the right, we tend to be the most prepared. most of 
the die hard preppers are right minded. we tend to be the most capable of 
utilizing primal tools and food/water sources. if it goes boogity, we have the 
best firepower and ammunition and training. so i never understood why people on 
the right get very nervous about these things. a lot like devout christians 
worying about end times and rapture. 





On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 8:09 PM Chuck McCown < [ mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com | 
ch...@wbmfg.com ] > wrote: 

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My oldest home - again son is much worse than you guys. He is very alt right 
too. He might be Alex Jones... I have never seen them both at the same place at 
the same time. He is certain Kung flu is gonna get us all. 


Sent from my iPhone 



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On Mar 1, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies < [ 
mailto:m...@mailmt.com | m...@mailmt.com ] > wrote: 



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On a side note. Thanks for letting me rant and rave here. Can't do it at home, 
wife just rolls eyes and tells me I'm a grumpy old man. Chuck, I know you are 
saving me a few $ in therapy. So, Thank You. 


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Sunday, March 1, 2020, 7:47:53 PM, you wrote: 
        

OK, maybe this is hysterical reporting (it’s from Washington Post after all), 
but sounds kind of science-y. 

The novel coronavirus has probably been spreading undetected for about six 
weeks in Washington state, where the first U.S. death was reported this 
weekend. A genetic analysis suggests that the cases are linked through 
community transmission and that this has been going on for weeks, with hundreds 
of infections likely in the state. 


From: AF < [ mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com | af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] > On 
Behalf Of Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 6:21 PM 
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' < [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | 
af@af.afmug.com ] > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu 

Must be a Florida thing, or a Walmart thing. I have not seen news reports 
anything close to “we are all going to die”. 

And I just stopped at the grocery store, no signs at all of people buying up 
all the Lysol and Purell. I did buy a couple of the pump bottles of foaming 
hand soap we like, but the shelf was full. News reports have said wash your 
hands and that it’s good advice for seasonal flu as well, I don’t think that’s 
doomsday advice. 

I have not checked Walmart, maybe things are all crazy there (as usual). 
Actually I have to admit that I recently discovered the steaks from Walmart are 
actually pretty good, they were branded Tyson Fresh Meats. 

From: AF < [ mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com | af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] > On 
Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies 
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 5:53 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | 
af@af.afmug.com ] > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu 

There are only a few things we know for sure. 

1. It is already in the US 
2. More people in the US will get it 
3. More people in the US will die. 

Anything other than this is pure speculation at this point. We don't know 
anything about this virus. Most everything I hear or read about this virus 
starts off with the equivalent of "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE". But if you bother 
to listen or read the article, it always has "may" or "some experts". The 
current official incubation period is 2-14 days, but hey lets just report 14 
days and base all our models on this and report it as the most likely scenario. 
We don't know how long it lives on surfaces. We don't know how it reacts to UV 
light. We don't know how it will do in warm/humid conditions. 

My opinion (just as valid as anyone else's), This virus has been in the states 
before the first reported case. People have had it and recovered thinking it 
was just the flu. Not everyone exposed is going to get it. Not everyone who 
gets it is going to need to be hospitalized. Not everyone who gets hospitalized 
will die. 

The media once again is doing us a huge dis-service. They are hyping this thing 
way out of proportion. Was at Wal-mart yesterday. Every can of Lysol or Lysol 
type of product was gone. Every package of disinfectant wipes were gone. Every 
bottle of any sized hand sanitizer, gone. Crazy. The closest reported "maybe" 
case is over 1300 miles away. God forbid we get a reported case in Florida, 
what will happen then? Going to start burning and looting? 


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Sunday, March 1, 2020, 3:55:47 PM, you wrote: 
        

I am not a doctor. I don't even play one on TV or any podcasts or blogs. I do 
pay attention to as much scientifically-based information I can find though. 
This is a pretty good synopsis on our current knowledge without any spin: 
[ 
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you
 | 
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you
 ] 

bp 
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> 

On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: 
        


Nazis are socialists. Bernie is a socialist. Therefore Bernie is a Nazi. So the 
Internet says. 

From: AF mailto: [ mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com | af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] 
On Behalf Of Steve Jones 
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 10:48 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto: [ mailto:af@af.afmug.com | 
af@af.afmug.com ] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock) 

thats the secret, remember russia shafted the nazis last time... russia is in 
asia, so russians are asians. Taking them out of the running too.... Weve said 
too much 

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam Moffett < [ mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com | 
dmmoff...@gmail.com ] > wrote: 
        

Nazis also hate Communists. It all fits. 

On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote: 
        

Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. This is obviously genetically designed 
to target Asians. The proof is that 99% of infections are asians. Obviously 
this is the resurgence of the Nazi party trying to eliminate a majority of the 
population so they can initiate another run at global domination. My neighbors 
mom, Karen told me that her friend, carols husband Brad told her that he heard 
that this is what brexit was all about. Germany and Great Britian are forming 
an alliance now. Its all hush hush, but there is a shadow government of guess 
what... Nazis. 

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33 AM Adam Moffett < [ mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com | 
dmmoff...@gmail.com ] > wrote: 
        

You mean.....Nazi's created Coronavirus? 

On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote: 
> I'm waiting for Godwin... 
> 
> 
> bp 
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> 
> 
> On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: 
>> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a 
>> "conspiracy". 
>> 
>> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the 
>> whole picture of what happened until more time passes. In the interim 
>> there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch 
>> onto early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they 
>> won't let go of them. 
>> 
>> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong 
>> 
>> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war 
>> 
>> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I 
>> mean that one's obviously a joke.....right?) 
>> 
>> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival bunkers. 
>> 
>> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus. Really? Or 
>> maybe they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all 
>> information so they're reporting what they think is true at the time 
>> it's said, or maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true. 
>> 
>> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote: 
>>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic. 
>>> 
>>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here. 
>>> 
>>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual 
>>> infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel 
>>> Coronavirus appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not 
>>> particularly deadly. 
>>> 
>> 
> 

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