You think they should have 3 billion dollars worth of masks on hand at all times? I cant imagine the resources to manage that inventory, let alone cycle it out. One mouse could do a lot of damage
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 11:39 AM Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org> wrote: > No I mean if they are low on supply - then they are unprepared! > > -- > Steven Kenney > Network Operations Manager > WaveDirect Telecommunications > http://www.wavedirect.net > (519)737-WAVE (9283) > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com> > *Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2020 12:24:24 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu > > The surgeon general warning says not to buy them because they dont work. > Thats an odd duck announcement. they dont fit a larger percentage of the > population, half the people you see in them have a gap by their noses, > which means theyre trapping the virus inside the mask. and if youre not > going to shave, dont even bother. Same reason firemen have mustaches and > not beards > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 11:21 AM Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org> > wrote: > >> Apparently MUM has been canceled because of the panic. >> >> -- >> Steven Kenney >> Network Operations Manager >> WaveDirect Telecommunications >> http://www.wavedirect.net >> (519)737-WAVE (9283) >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Sent: *Monday, March 2, 2020 12:02:40 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu >> >> I think this topic has \lent >> but anybody watching this: >> Market Summary >> <https://www.google.com/search?q=finance&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS887US887&oq=dow+jo&aqs=chrome.0.35i39j69i57j0l6.3975j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAOPQeMSozC3w8sc9YSmpSWtOXmMU4RJyy8xLzEtO9UnMS8nMSw9ITE_lAQCCiJIYKAAAAA&tbm=fin&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiQmZTAovznAhUTCjQIHfucDiAQ6M8CMAB6BAhAEAI&sxsrf=ALeKk02NB20xnoAVtEGZ3O3rXmLIN6CAsA:1583168566404> >> > Dow Jones Industrial Average >> INDEXDJX: .DJI >> Follow >> 26,178.22 +768.86 (3.03%) >> >> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 11:01 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >>> It does seem like it would please some of them. >>> But we are in the middle of Lent right now, right? >>> >>> *From:* Adam Moffett >>> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 9:55 AM >>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu >>> >>> >>> Steve, the extremist part is where you think "the left" wants a tragic >>> outcome. >>> >>> >>> On 3/2/2020 11:49 AM, Steve Jones wrote: >>> >>> Its extremist to not buy into the hype, its extremist to know what it >>> would actually take to contain it if the hype were true? Pick a team Carl. >>> how would you stop people from flooding out of a major urban area like >>> chicago? just politely ask them to stay? A quarantine is a nothing in >>> nothing out, literally the entire point. Or are you fine with letting >>> people in a quarantine have the choice? >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:19 AM Carl Peterson < >>> cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Jesus Christ Steve, could you please drop this BS! It is insulting and >>>> pretty disgusting. Keep your extremist BS on some right wing troll list. >>>> It doesn't belong here. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:14 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> a serious question, are they going to delay the census? Seems to me if >>>>> this is as infectious as the media would like you to believe that having >>>>> people going door to door in communities wouldnt be such a great idea. >>>>> >>>>> If the left gets what they want, a tragic outcome to blame on the >>>>> current executive, they may have to accept the consequence, less house of >>>>> rep seats since they get their seats from cities, and cities is what >>>>> plagues decimate. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:09 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Brilliant! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe send them via cruise ship. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com >>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 10:04 AM >>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> We could just send anyone with this bug to China. Problem solved. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof >>>>>> >>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 9:00 AM >>>>>> >>>>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' >>>>>> >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe they can send it to us. Today for the first time I heard the >>>>>> term “surge capacity” applied to hospital beds. Person was saying US >>>>>> healthcare industry has made hospitals efficient same way as airlines, >>>>>> aim >>>>>> for zero empty beds, with the result that there’s not much surge >>>>>> capacity. >>>>>> Let’s hope somebody’s looking at ways to open up more facilities in areas >>>>>> where outbreaks happen. The Chinese weren’t stupid with their modular >>>>>> approach to quickly creating a field hospital. Reminds me of MASH. Time >>>>>> for a bug out! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I did a quick Google search for “hospital surge capacity” and the >>>>>> first page of results were mostly studies after Katrina. A hurricane is >>>>>> worse because it closes down hospitals and pharmacies, eliminating >>>>>> capacity. With the coronavirus what I suspect we need to guard against >>>>>> is >>>>>> infecting all the hospital staff and first responders so they get >>>>>> quarantined. This appears to be happening with that nursing home in >>>>>> Kirkland, Washington. 25 firefighters are now quarantined as a >>>>>> precaution >>>>>> because they had been to that facility. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones >>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 8:44 AM >>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Chinas closing their first hospital they built since they dont have >>>>>> enough patients >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 8:42 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Perish the thought! 3-hour-old baguettes! I would rather die from >>>>>> COVID-19 before eating an old baguette! >>>>>> >>>>>> If I smoke another cigarette, I can aggravate my COPD and hasten the >>>>>> end. >>>>>> >>>>>> bp >>>>>> >>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3/2/2020 5:57 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, the French are screwed, they don’t even stock food for >>>>>> tonight’s dinner. Because who wants to eat 2 hour old baguettes. >>>>>> Probably >>>>>> the only thing in their pantry is cigarettes and wine. But at least if >>>>>> these are the end times, they have cigarettes and wine while they watch >>>>>> the >>>>>> end. Who cares about Spam and Vienna sausages. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett >>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 6:25 AM >>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You need the disaster to occur to justify all your preparation. Some >>>>>> part of you is rooting for it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just a hypothesis. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3/1/2020 10:15 PM, Steve Jones wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> i never understood it, on the right, we tend to be the most prepared. >>>>>> most of the die hard preppers are right minded. we tend to be the most >>>>>> capable of utilizing primal tools and food/water sources. if it goes >>>>>> boogity, we have the best firepower and ammunition and training. so i >>>>>> never >>>>>> understood why people on the right get very nervous about these things. a >>>>>> lot like devout christians worying about end times and rapture. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 8:09 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> My oldest home - again son is much worse than you guys. He is very >>>>>> alt right too. He might be Alex Jones... I have never seen them both at >>>>>> the same place at the same time. He is certain Kung flu is gonna get us >>>>>> all. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies < >>>>>> m...@mailmt.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On a side note. Thanks for letting me rant and rave here. Can't do >>>>>> it at home, wife just rolls eyes and tells me I'm a grumpy old man. >>>>>> Chuck, >>>>>> I know you are saving me a few $ in therapy. So, Thank You. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Myakka Technologies, Inc. >>>>>> www.Myakka.com >>>>>> >>>>>> ------ >>>>>> >>>>>> Sunday, March 1, 2020, 7:47:53 PM, you wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> OK, maybe this is hysterical reporting (it’s from Washington Post >>>>>> after all), but sounds kind of science-y. >>>>>> >>>>>> The novel coronavirus has probably been spreading undetected for >>>>>> about six weeks in Washington state, where the first U.S. death was >>>>>> reported this weekend. A genetic analysis suggests that the cases are >>>>>> linked through community transmission and that this has been going on for >>>>>> weeks, with hundreds of infections likely in the state. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof >>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 6:21 PM >>>>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu >>>>>> >>>>>> Must be a Florida thing, or a Walmart thing. I have not seen news >>>>>> reports anything close to “we are all going to die”. >>>>>> >>>>>> And I just stopped at the grocery store, no signs at all of people >>>>>> buying up all the Lysol and Purell. I did buy a couple of the pump >>>>>> bottles >>>>>> of foaming hand soap we like, but the shelf was full. News reports have >>>>>> said wash your hands and that it’s good advice for seasonal flu as well, >>>>>> I >>>>>> don’t think that’s doomsday advice. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have not checked Walmart, maybe things are all crazy there (as >>>>>> usual). Actually I have to admit that I recently discovered the steaks >>>>>> from Walmart are actually pretty good, they were branded Tyson Fresh >>>>>> Meats. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mark - Myakka >>>>>> Technologies >>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 5:53 PM >>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu >>>>>> >>>>>> There are only a few things we know for sure. >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. It is already in the US >>>>>> 2. More people in the US will get it >>>>>> 3. More people in the US will die. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anything other than this is pure speculation at this point. We don't >>>>>> know anything about this virus. Most everything I hear or read about >>>>>> this >>>>>> virus starts off with the equivalent of "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE". But >>>>>> if >>>>>> you bother to listen or read the article, it always has "may" or "some >>>>>> experts". The current official incubation period is 2-14 days, but hey >>>>>> lets just report 14 days and base all our models on this and report it as >>>>>> the most likely scenario. We don't know how long it lives on surfaces. >>>>>> We >>>>>> don't know how it reacts to UV light. We don't know how it will do in >>>>>> warm/humid conditions. >>>>>> >>>>>> My opinion (just as valid as anyone else's), This virus has been in >>>>>> the states before the first reported case. People have had it and >>>>>> recovered thinking it was just the flu. Not everyone exposed is going to >>>>>> get it. Not everyone who gets it is going to need to be hospitalized. >>>>>> Not >>>>>> everyone who gets hospitalized will die. >>>>>> >>>>>> The media once again is doing us a huge dis-service. They are hyping >>>>>> this thing way out of proportion. Was at Wal-mart yesterday. Every can >>>>>> of >>>>>> Lysol or Lysol type of product was gone. Every package of disinfectant >>>>>> wipes were gone. Every bottle of any sized hand sanitizer, gone. Crazy. >>>>>> The closest reported "maybe" case is over 1300 miles away. God forbid we >>>>>> get a reported case in Florida, what will happen then? Going to start >>>>>> burning and looting? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Myakka Technologies, Inc. >>>>>> www.Myakka.com >>>>>> >>>>>> ------ >>>>>> >>>>>> Sunday, March 1, 2020, 3:55:47 PM, you wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I am not a doctor. I don't even play one on TV or any podcasts or >>>>>> blogs. I do pay attention to as much scientifically-based information I >>>>>> can >>>>>> find though. >>>>>> This is a pretty good synopsis on our current knowledge without any >>>>>> spin: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you >>>>>> >>>>>> bp >>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Nazis are socialists. Bernie is a socialist. Therefore Bernie is a >>>>>> Nazi. So the Internet says. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones >>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2020 10:48 AM >>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock) >>>>>> >>>>>> thats the secret, remember russia shafted the nazis last time... >>>>>> russia is in asia, so russians are asians. Taking them out of the running >>>>>> too.... Weve said too much >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Nazis also hate Communists. It all fits. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. This is obviously genetically >>>>>> designed to target Asians. The proof is that 99% of infections are >>>>>> asians. >>>>>> Obviously this is the resurgence of the Nazi party trying to eliminate a >>>>>> majority of the population so they can initiate another run at global >>>>>> domination. My neighbors mom, Karen told me that her friend, carols >>>>>> husband >>>>>> Brad told her that he heard that this is what brexit was all about. >>>>>> Germany >>>>>> and Great Britian are forming an alliance now. Its all hush hush, but >>>>>> there >>>>>> is a shadow government of guess what... Nazis. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> You mean.....Nazi's created Coronavirus? >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote: >>>>>> > I'm waiting for Godwin... >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > bp >>>>>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >>>>>> >> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything >>>>>> is a >>>>>> >> "conspiracy". >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has >>>>>> the >>>>>> >> whole picture of what happened until more time passes. In the >>>>>> interim >>>>>> >> there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People >>>>>> latch >>>>>> >> onto early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they >>>>>> >> won't let go of them. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong >>>>>> Kong >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I >>>>>> >> mean that one's obviously a joke.....right?) >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival >>>>>> bunkers. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus. Really? Or >>>>>> >> maybe they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all >>>>>> >> information so they're reporting what they think is true at the >>>>>> time >>>>>> >> it's said, or maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote: >>>>>> >>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen >>>>>> actual >>>>>> >>> infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. 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