900 is magic not science.  I never felt there was a logical explanation to 
where it worked and where it didn't.  I also believe cnHeat is basically 
looking for LOS, and if you asked it to evaluate NLOS paths, now the LIDAR data 
would have to distinguish maples from pines from buildings.


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From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:08 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat

Thanks. I'm watching an old webinar where only 5GHz and 3.5 GHz was supported.  
900 was on the road map.

Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote:
> At least 900, 2.4, 3.5, and 5
>
> Jeff Broadwick
> CTIconnect
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>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 12:18 PM, Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>
>> ´╗┐What frequencies does it support?
>>
>> ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>> How do they charge for it?  Can you do work for the next guy over?
>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 24, 2020 6:20 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat
>>> I would bet they would be able to get something arranged. You never know if 
>>> you don't ask. I know one isp in the same boat, 150 towers, lots of hills, 
>>> I can see the price being too high. But the other part where they help 
>>> identify best locations to cover from may be worth it. Less towers and more 
>>> coverage is always good. Planting people seeds would be good too. But 
>>> they're hard to keep watered.
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 6:50 PM SmarterBroadband <li...@sbb.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>     I would love to give it a go. But the pricing model of per site
>>>     does not work for us.  We have to have many small sites because of
>>>     hills and trees , over 90 currently.   I can see if you had a few
>>>     mega sites it could make sense.
>>>
>>>     *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>>     *Sent:* Tuesday, March 24, 2020 10:15 AM
>>>     *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>     *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat
>>>
>>>     much much more than free
>>>
>>>     but much much less input and much much much more output
>>>
>>>     I had the same question, and skepticism, until i saw the data and
>>>     applied it to our real world.
>>>
>>>     The way I look at it, radio mobile costs zero. A no line of site
>>>     generates zero, so thats a wash on its face. but the truck rolled
>>>     and other jobs werent done, so theres a net loss. that in itself
>>>     probably scales to the price over the course of the customer we
>>>     missed.
>>>
>>>     On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 12:10 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>         What does it cost?  More than Radio Mobile...?
>>>
>>>         *From:*Steve Jones
>>>
>>>         *Sent:*Tuesday, March 24, 2020 11:04 AM
>>>
>>>         *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>
>>>         *Subject:*[AFMUG] CNHeat
>>>
>>>         I dont know if many of you degenerates over here still do this
>>>         pasky WISP stuff, but I am demoing CNHeat, this is a literal
>>>         game changer, we took a no line of site this morning to
>>>         install. we would have walked away, btu happened to have the
>>>         CNHeat for the location. found the spot, great signal (we
>>>         actually missed it because walking the roof and the scan time
>>>         didnt grab it)
>>>
>>>         there was  a marginal spot we considered, this would have been
>>>         bad long term.
>>>
>>>         we went through migrating a few hundred customers off 320 to
>>>         EPMp the last few months, this would have been a godsend, half
>>>         of them will need to be revisited in spring when leaves come
>>>         out, but we were pressing to clear 320 to make room for 450
>>>         cbrs stuff
>>>
>>>         your installer can walk out the door each morning with a
>>>         picture and have a best location target, install survey times
>>>         will be minimized and youll know youre well beyond first good
>>>         spot, and on the probably best spot.
>>>
>>>         I dont come across a product im this excited about too often.
>>>         If I had the time id go look at the last years NLOS and see
>>>         where we missed revenue options. And this is just IDENTIFY the
>>>         other two components are crazy perfect too
>>>
>>>         like anything, youll need to know how to look at the data, and
>>>         its only as good as the data you put in, I think we are all
>>>         familiar with that here.
>>>
>>>         This is nowhere near free, but i think abut how much less I
>>>         can do on my Access points because of marginal installs, and
>>>         how much we have lost in NLOS that didnt need to be
>>>
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