Hey, I asked first for RF goggles and an R2D2 tower monkey, no cutting
in line. Oh, and where’s my flying car?
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2020 8:04 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat
I'd hope we go onsite. Id pay slot more for cnheat if it did the
installs too. Like shoots a rocket from cambium hq, lands on the spot,
nanotech installs
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020, 3:39 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
Of course that 5x5 patch has to be verified onsite, especially for
trees near the site. Stupid trees grow, or blow in the wind.
I had a customer once with a windbreak of whatever those really
tall skinny trees are, not the evergreens, some kind or poplar or
something that grows 5-10 feet per in height per year. The trees
had grown to be taller than the house, and they took 2 of them out
with a chainsaw. Everything was fine when the wind was from the
north, but with a strong wind from the south, the link would
completely drop. She wouldn’t believe me the trees were bending
in the wind, until I had a tech climb up on the second story roof
and plug a little amplified speaker into the tone alignment port
of the Cambium SM. You could watch the trees sway back and forth
and listen to the tone rise and fall, and drop out when the wind
blew hard enough.
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:55 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat
that would be a discussion to have with them.
LOS is the gold standard, and finding a 5x5 patch with it in 30
seconds is amazing. We are 99.9% on pulling the trigger
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 2:53 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
900 is magic not science. I never felt there was a logical
explanation to where it worked and where it didn't. I also
believe cnHeat is basically looking for LOS, and if you asked
it to evaluate NLOS paths, now the LIDAR data would have to
distinguish maples from pines from buildings.
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From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:08 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat
Thanks. I'm watching an old webinar where only 5GHz and 3.5
GHz was supported. 900 was on the road map.
Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote:
> At least 900, 2.4, 3.5, and 5
>
> Jeff Broadwick
> CTIconnect
> 312-205-2519 Office
> 574-220-7826 Cell
> jbroadw...@cticonnect.com <mailto:jbroadw...@cticonnect.com>
>
>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 12:18 PM, Jay Weekley
<par...@cyberbroadband.net <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>>
wrote:
>>
>> What frequencies does it support?
>>
>> ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>> How do they charge for it? Can you do work for the next
guy over?
>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 24, 2020 6:20 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat
>>> I would bet they would be able to get something arranged.
You never know if you don't ask. I know one isp in the same
boat, 150 towers, lots of hills, I can see the price being too
high. But the other part where they help identify best
locations to cover from may be worth it. Less towers and more
coverage is always good. Planting people seeds would be good
too. But they're hard to keep watered.
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 6:50 PM SmarterBroadband
<li...@sbb.net <mailto:li...@sbb.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would love to give it a go. But the pricing model of
per site
>>> does not work for us. We have to have many small
sites because of
>>> hills and trees , over 90 currently. I can see if
you had a few
>>> mega sites it could make sense.
>>>
>>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 24, 2020 10:15 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
<af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat
>>>
>>> much much more than free
>>>
>>> but much much less input and much much much more output
>>>
>>> I had the same question, and skepticism, until i saw
the data and
>>> applied it to our real world.
>>>
>>> The way I look at it, radio mobile costs zero. A no
line of site
>>> generates zero, so thats a wash on its face. but the
truck rolled
>>> and other jobs werent done, so theres a net loss. that
in itself
>>> probably scales to the price over the course of the
customer we
>>> missed.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 12:10 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> What does it cost? More than Radio Mobile...?
>>>
>>> *From:*Steve Jones
>>>
>>> *Sent:*Tuesday, March 24, 2020 11:04 AM
>>>
>>> *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>
>>> *Subject:*[AFMUG] CNHeat
>>>
>>> I dont know if many of you degenerates over here
still do this
>>> pasky WISP stuff, but I am demoing CNHeat, this is
a literal
>>> game changer, we took a no line of site this
morning to
>>> install. we would have walked away, btu happened
to have the
>>> CNHeat for the location. found the spot, great
signal (we
>>> actually missed it because walking the roof and
the scan time
>>> didnt grab it)
>>>
>>> there was a marginal spot we considered, this
would have been
>>> bad long term.
>>>
>>> we went through migrating a few hundred customers
off 320 to
>>> EPMp the last few months, this would have been a
godsend, half
>>> of them will need to be revisited in spring when
leaves come
>>> out, but we were pressing to clear 320 to make
room for 450
>>> cbrs stuff
>>>
>>> your installer can walk out the door each morning
with a
>>> picture and have a best location target, install
survey times
>>> will be minimized and youll know youre well beyond
first good
>>> spot, and on the probably best spot.
>>>
>>> I dont come across a product im this excited about
too often.
>>> If I had the time id go look at the last years
NLOS and see
>>> where we missed revenue options. And this is just
IDENTIFY the
>>> other two components are crazy perfect too
>>>
>>> like anything, youll need to know how to look at
the data, and
>>> its only as good as the data you put in, I think
we are all
>>> familiar with that here.
>>>
>>> This is nowhere near free, but i think abut how
much less I
>>> can do on my Access points because of marginal
installs, and
>>> how much we have lost in NLOS that didnt need to be
>>>
>>>
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