that would be a discussion to have with them.
LOS is the gold standard, and finding a 5x5 patch with it in 30 seconds is
amazing. We are 99.9% on pulling the trigger

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 2:53 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> 900 is magic not science.  I never felt there was a logical explanation to
> where it worked and where it didn't.  I also believe cnHeat is basically
> looking for LOS, and if you asked it to evaluate NLOS paths, now the LIDAR
> data would have to distinguish maples from pines from buildings.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:08 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat
>
> Thanks. I'm watching an old webinar where only 5GHz and 3.5 GHz was
> supported.  900 was on the road map.
>
> Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote:
> > At least 900, 2.4, 3.5, and 5
> >
> > Jeff Broadwick
> > CTIconnect
> > 312-205-2519 Office
> > 574-220-7826 Cell
> > jbroadw...@cticonnect.com
> >
> >> On Mar 25, 2020, at 12:18 PM, Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> ´╗┐What frequencies does it support?
> >>
> >> ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> >>> How do they charge for it?  Can you do work for the next guy over?
> >>> *From:* Steve Jones
> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 24, 2020 6:20 PM
> >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat
> >>> I would bet they would be able to get something arranged. You never
> know if you don't ask. I know one isp in the same boat, 150 towers, lots of
> hills, I can see the price being too high. But the other part where they
> help identify best locations to cover from may be worth it. Less towers and
> more coverage is always good. Planting people seeds would be good too. But
> they're hard to keep watered.
> >>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 6:50 PM SmarterBroadband <li...@sbb.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>     I would love to give it a go. But the pricing model of per site
> >>>     does not work for us.  We have to have many small sites because of
> >>>     hills and trees , over 90 currently.   I can see if you had a few
> >>>     mega sites it could make sense.
> >>>
> >>>     *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve
> Jones
> >>>     *Sent:* Tuesday, March 24, 2020 10:15 AM
> >>>     *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> >>>     *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CNHeat
> >>>
> >>>     much much more than free
> >>>
> >>>     but much much less input and much much much more output
> >>>
> >>>     I had the same question, and skepticism, until i saw the data and
> >>>     applied it to our real world.
> >>>
> >>>     The way I look at it, radio mobile costs zero. A no line of site
> >>>     generates zero, so thats a wash on its face. but the truck rolled
> >>>     and other jobs werent done, so theres a net loss. that in itself
> >>>     probably scales to the price over the course of the customer we
> >>>     missed.
> >>>
> >>>     On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 12:10 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>         What does it cost?  More than Radio Mobile...?
> >>>
> >>>         *From:*Steve Jones
> >>>
> >>>         *Sent:*Tuesday, March 24, 2020 11:04 AM
> >>>
> >>>         *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> >>>
> >>>         *Subject:*[AFMUG] CNHeat
> >>>
> >>>         I dont know if many of you degenerates over here still do this
> >>>         pasky WISP stuff, but I am demoing CNHeat, this is a literal
> >>>         game changer, we took a no line of site this morning to
> >>>         install. we would have walked away, btu happened to have the
> >>>         CNHeat for the location. found the spot, great signal (we
> >>>         actually missed it because walking the roof and the scan time
> >>>         didnt grab it)
> >>>
> >>>         there was  a marginal spot we considered, this would have been
> >>>         bad long term.
> >>>
> >>>         we went through migrating a few hundred customers off 320 to
> >>>         EPMp the last few months, this would have been a godsend, half
> >>>         of them will need to be revisited in spring when leaves come
> >>>         out, but we were pressing to clear 320 to make room for 450
> >>>         cbrs stuff
> >>>
> >>>         your installer can walk out the door each morning with a
> >>>         picture and have a best location target, install survey times
> >>>         will be minimized and youll know youre well beyond first good
> >>>         spot, and on the probably best spot.
> >>>
> >>>         I dont come across a product im this excited about too often.
> >>>         If I had the time id go look at the last years NLOS and see
> >>>         where we missed revenue options. And this is just IDENTIFY the
> >>>         other two components are crazy perfect too
> >>>
> >>>         like anything, youll need to know how to look at the data, and
> >>>         its only as good as the data you put in, I think we are all
> >>>         familiar with that here.
> >>>
> >>>         This is nowhere near free, but i think abut how much less I
> >>>         can do on my Access points because of marginal installs, and
> >>>         how much we have lost in NLOS that didnt need to be
> >>>
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