I can't quite put my finger on it but something really pushes my buttons about this thread... I guess I still have lingering feelings about supporting the underdog.
Now I'm sitting here embarrassed that I ever stood up for the underdog because they have now become like everyone else. On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:45 AM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote: > I heard another Theory last night that UBNT had too many of the Kits in > stock, and now they're trying to get them sold off before they start > offering piecemeal parts again. > > Some beancounter probably had their eyes light up when they thought of the > Kit idea, and it was met with enthusiastic nods around the conference > table, after seeing all the glossy charts with arrows pointing up, and > giant dollar signs and Moneybags. Then nobody bought them, so other parts > are just magically 'unavailable' now to drive up kit sales. > > On 4/28/2020 8:26 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: > > Agreed. I’ve sold a bunch of them and they’ve been solid if > unspectacular...but the price was right for certain applications. > > I’m REALLY concerned about their new kit program. They said they would > sell the bare radios again, but that hasn’t happened yet. > > If you have a link (depending on where you are) longer than 7-8 miles, you > need bigger/better dishes than their 2.5’ dish. Right now, you have to buy > the kit and the other dishes and hope you have a use for the 2.5’ dishes > down the road. Horribly wasteful. Radiowave and KP built dishes > specifically for the AF-11. They are really screwed right now. > > Jeff Broadwick > CTIconnect > 312-205-2519 Office > 574-220-7826 Cell > jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > > On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:16 AM, Matt Hoppes > <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> > wrote: > > > While the 11 has issues and other vendors have far superior products - > something was wrong if you faded in the rain at 5 miles. > > On Apr 27, 2020, at 11:51 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > This is why I'm moving away from UBNT for 11ghz backhauls. They jacked the > price up on the stand alone units. Stock has been non-existent since > November/December which was the last time I was able to order stand alone > AF11 radios. Now a rumor they will never sell them again without their > crappy dish? Which BTW has steel bolts on that you know will turn to rust > in a couple years which really pisses me off. I know that other brands cost > about 2x-2.5x like Aviat but for the same licensed 80mhz channel you can > get 1.4gbps full duplex and I have never seen a AF11 radio actually push > over 600 meg. Had a 5 mile and 6 mile AF11 link fade in the rain just as > bad as a AF24 would on a 3-4 mile shot. I'm going all Aviat from here on > out, 11, 18, 80ghz. Their pricing is extremely competitive. Ken is awesome, > always emails me back within 30 minutes with any questions I have. Hell you > can buy a 80ghz link that is keyed up for 10gbps full duplex for $5200 out > the door. Siklu's promo for $4200 link will only do 2gbps which you can't > even get from Baltic because they are sold out. > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 5:14 PM Chuck Macenski <ch...@macenski.com> wrote: > >> Sorry, ignore that. I will forward this issue internally so that the AF11 >> is added. So many changes, so little time... >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 4:10 PM Chuck Macenski <ch...@macenski.com> >> wrote: >> >>> https://www.ui.com/distributors/stock-locator/ >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 3:33 PM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote: >>> >>>> From Streakwave? They're the one's that told me this morning they were >>>> never going to get them. >>>> >>>> On 4/27/2020 3:30 PM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote: >>>> >>>> Streakwave was telling me that originally too, but it was during the >>>> change of the model number of the standalone radio. Now that the model >>>> number for the stand alone radio is changed, price is a bit higher, but >>>> they are once again available. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Apr 27, 2020, at 14:26, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> >>>> <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> One distributor I talked to said they were being told by UBNT that >>>> their Single Radio order would never be fulfilled.... >>>> >>>> On 4/27/2020 3:20 PM, Chuck Macenski wrote: >>>> >>>> That rumor is incorrect. The AF11 radio is available as a stand-alone >>>> SKU. >>>> >>>> https://store.ui.com/collections/operator-airfiber/products/af-11 >>>> >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 3:11 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Why in the world would you buy crappy radios from a crappy company >>>>> that likes to frivolously sue its customers and distributors? They also >>>>> seem to like to discontinue products at the drop of a hat. >>>>> >>>>> Not gonna build my business model around a crappy company like that. >>>>> >>>>> 2 cents >>>>> >>>>> -Sean >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 1:05 PM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I've heard a rumor that the only way to buy an AF11 radio now is in a >>>>>> kit with Radio+Single Diplexer+Dish. Single radios cannot be >>>>>> purchased. How can you keep spares of equipment if that's the case? >>>>>> >>>>>> The price has gone up too. We were getting bare radios for $585 last >>>>>> year. Now if you break the cost out of the Dishes and Diplexers from >>>>>> the Kit, it's $680 for just the radio. And places that have bare >>>>>> radios >>>>>> listed in their online stores (but have no stock) have a single radio >>>>>> in >>>>>> the $900 range. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is UBNT Just trying to kill the 3rd party Antenna market? Or were >>>>>> they >>>>>> having problems interfacing to other dishes because of their unique >>>>>> N >>>>>> connector method? The part that really annoys me is that I can't >>>>>> just >>>>>> have spare radios sitting on the shelf. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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