I find it interesting that somehow we keep trying the latest Ubiquiti product because it's all shiny and then get screwed by it shortly afterward. Following that, we try the latest shiny Ubiquiti product and then get screwed by it after a short time. GOTO 10
I know one person at Ubiquiti now and he's a great guy, but he has absolutely no pull in the company. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 2:10 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: > and they like to file frivolous lawsuits against their customers and > distributors...just sayin' > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:28 AM TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote: > >> I can't quite put my finger on it but something really pushes my buttons >> about this thread... I guess I still have lingering feelings about >> supporting the underdog. >> >> Now I'm sitting here embarrassed that I ever stood up for the underdog >> because they have now become like everyone else. >> >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:45 AM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote: >> >>> I heard another Theory last night that UBNT had too many of the Kits in >>> stock, and now they're trying to get them sold off before they start >>> offering piecemeal parts again. >>> >>> Some beancounter probably had their eyes light up when they thought of >>> the Kit idea, and it was met with enthusiastic nods around the conference >>> table, after seeing all the glossy charts with arrows pointing up, and >>> giant dollar signs and Moneybags. Then nobody bought them, so other parts >>> are just magically 'unavailable' now to drive up kit sales. >>> >>> On 4/28/2020 8:26 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: >>> >>> Agreed. I’ve sold a bunch of them and they’ve been solid if >>> unspectacular...but the price was right for certain applications. >>> >>> I’m REALLY concerned about their new kit program. They said they would >>> sell the bare radios again, but that hasn’t happened yet. >>> >>> If you have a link (depending on where you are) longer than 7-8 miles, >>> you need bigger/better dishes than their 2.5’ dish. Right now, you have to >>> buy the kit and the other dishes and hope you have a use for the 2.5’ >>> dishes down the road. Horribly wasteful. Radiowave and KP built dishes >>> specifically for the AF-11. They are really screwed right now. >>> >>> Jeff Broadwick >>> CTIconnect >>> 312-205-2519 Office >>> 574-220-7826 Cell >>> jbroadw...@cticonnect.com >>> >>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:16 AM, Matt Hoppes >>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> While the 11 has issues and other vendors have far superior products - >>> something was wrong if you faded in the rain at 5 miles. >>> >>> On Apr 27, 2020, at 11:51 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> This is why I'm moving away from UBNT for 11ghz backhauls. They jacked >>> the price up on the stand alone units. Stock has been non-existent since >>> November/December which was the last time I was able to order stand alone >>> AF11 radios. Now a rumor they will never sell them again without their >>> crappy dish? Which BTW has steel bolts on that you know will turn to rust >>> in a couple years which really pisses me off. I know that other brands cost >>> about 2x-2.5x like Aviat but for the same licensed 80mhz channel you can >>> get 1.4gbps full duplex and I have never seen a AF11 radio actually push >>> over 600 meg. Had a 5 mile and 6 mile AF11 link fade in the rain just as >>> bad as a AF24 would on a 3-4 mile shot. I'm going all Aviat from here on >>> out, 11, 18, 80ghz. Their pricing is extremely competitive. Ken is awesome, >>> always emails me back within 30 minutes with any questions I have. Hell you >>> can buy a 80ghz link that is keyed up for 10gbps full duplex for $5200 out >>> the door. Siklu's promo for $4200 link will only do 2gbps which you can't >>> even get from Baltic because they are sold out. >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 5:14 PM Chuck Macenski <ch...@macenski.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Sorry, ignore that. I will forward this issue internally so that the >>>> AF11 is added. So many changes, so little time... >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 4:10 PM Chuck Macenski <ch...@macenski.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> https://www.ui.com/distributors/stock-locator/ >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 3:33 PM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> From Streakwave? They're the one's that told me this morning they >>>>>> were never going to get them. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 4/27/2020 3:30 PM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Streakwave was telling me that originally too, but it was during the >>>>>> change of the model number of the standalone radio. Now that the model >>>>>> number for the stand alone radio is changed, price is a bit higher, but >>>>>> they are once again available. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 27, 2020, at 14:26, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> >>>>>> <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> One distributor I talked to said they were being told by UBNT that >>>>>> their Single Radio order would never be fulfilled.... >>>>>> >>>>>> On 4/27/2020 3:20 PM, Chuck Macenski wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> That rumor is incorrect. The AF11 radio is available as a stand-alone >>>>>> SKU. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://store.ui.com/collections/operator-airfiber/products/af-11 >>>>>> >>>>>> Chuck >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 3:11 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Why in the world would you buy crappy radios from a crappy company >>>>>>> that likes to frivolously sue its customers and distributors? They also >>>>>>> seem to like to discontinue products at the drop of a hat. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not gonna build my business model around a crappy company like that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2 cents >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Sean >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 1:05 PM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've heard a rumor that the only way to buy an AF11 radio now is in >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> kit with Radio+Single Diplexer+Dish. Single radios cannot be >>>>>>>> purchased. How can you keep spares of equipment if that's the case? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The price has gone up too. We were getting bare radios for $585 >>>>>>>> last >>>>>>>> year. Now if you break the cost out of the Dishes and Diplexers >>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>> the Kit, it's $680 for just the radio. And places that have bare >>>>>>>> radios >>>>>>>> listed in their online stores (but have no stock) have a single >>>>>>>> radio in >>>>>>>> the $900 range. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is UBNT Just trying to kill the 3rd party Antenna market? Or were >>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> having problems interfacing to other dishes because of their >>>>>>>> unique N >>>>>>>> connector method? 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