that was fear mongering, btw, to drive my agenda. I dont like seatbelts. (that is a lie, i like seatbelts, they do save lives)
On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 12:24 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > Cars are more dangerous in 2020 because there are more annual deaths than > in 1960. since only the number matters. We dont need seatbelts or airbags > because obviously they are making cars more dangerous. Safety glass and > crumple zones are killing people > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 12:21 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The only comparison is the number. Number killed in the conflict. >> Number killed by the virus. Number killed by Jim Jones. >> If the number is big enough people care. If the deaths happen is a short >> amount of time people care more. >> It was just a milepost number. Hopefully we don’t get to Civil War >> numbers. Or holocaust numbers. >> >> Not sure how you can use a factoid like that as fear mongering. It is >> just an idle curiosity. It is not an insignificant number of deaths. >> People seemed to be much more afraid of killer bees. >> >> *From:* Steve Jones >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2020 11:14 AM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Hope? >> >> " 9,087,000 military personnel served on active duty during the *Vietnam* >> Era (Aug 5, 1964 – May 7, 1975). 2 8,744,000 GIs were on active duty during >> the war (Aug 5, 1964 – March 28, 1973). 3. 2,709,918 Americans served in >> *Vietnam* , this number represents 9.7% of their generation" >> >> http://www.uswardogs.org/vietnam-statistics/ >> >> 58,202 deaths >> >> Now. You actually have the numbers to compare >> 2,709,918 over 9 years >> >> 58,202 of those 2,709,918 died over those 9 years >> >> You see where this is going? >> >> now extrapolate over 9 year, noting that all experts say kungflu is in >> all probability going to be moot after the 3rd season based on standard >> viral activity. >> >> We will go with 100k deaths this season to keep the fear mongering >> strong. Next season will be 50k, third season 25k, negligible on following >> seasons. >> >> so 175k deaths out of 330,000,000 pesrons (we wont even address birth >> rates and how many more people over 9 years that is) >> >> for reference, assuming 330 million went over with the same outcomes, we >> would have to see 7,087,542.8 china-virus deaths to be an equitable >> comparison >> >> So, basically comparing the rona to vietnam tells us that rona isnt even >> a rednecks piss in the ocean comparatively >> >> >> The fear mongering fails when put up against the real world. So when 7 >> million US citizens die from kungflu, ill take that comparison as having >> any merit beyond an attempt to startle the sheep >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 11:57 AM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> My point wasn't fear mongering, but to put some kind of perspective on >>> it. The observation I had was that Vietnam killed about 241 people per >>> month (on average) vs the CV19 killing more than 100 times that. Comparing >>> to flu is semi-relevant as it is also a virus, except that we know how to >>> make vaccines in semi-anticipation of it, and it is considerably less >>> deadly either way. >>> >>> If you can't measure it, you don't know what you have. >>> >>> >>> >>> bp >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> >>> On 4/29/2020 9:41 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: >>> >>> The point was that there are lots of things that cause as many deaths or >>> more, but we aren't comparing them to people killed in Vietnam. They >>> specifically did this to try to raise an emotional point with people who >>> are touchy about the Vietnam conflict. It is just as relevant to compare >>> auto deaths with war casualties as it is with a virus. Neither have >>> anything to do with each other. It is fear mongering plain and simple. >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 10:30 AM Steve Jones <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Flu has vaccine and Tamiflu. Without those, Flue would probably clear >>>> 2-300k annually. if we wanted to compare apples and apples. >>>> look to where the data saying that the destructin of society was >>>> effective is coming from. Its only coming from places that gain by that. >>>> Here is a secret, we didnt actually isolate. the stores are packed more >>>> than before, people who normally wouldnt have interacted are passing one >>>> another then came home and compressed families. We hot boxed is all that >>>> actually took place. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 9:48 AM <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I guess the difference is, you don’t do anything different and 66,000 >>>>> people will get flu. >>>>> That is what the estimate is up to April 10 this year. We live with >>>>> it. Mostly old folks. >>>>> >>>>> But behaving the same way and you may have 300,000 corona deaths in >>>>> addition to the regular flu. >>>>> Just breathing on someone doesn’t give them the flu. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Lewis Bergman >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2020 8:31 AM >>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Hope? >>>>> >>>>> I don't think those are great comparisons but I think the Flu is. >>>>> 66,000 died last year from the flu in the US and we still managed to walk >>>>> around and shake hands. But hey, if you think you might die, stay home. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 9:04 AM Cameron Crum <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Why don't we put out graphs every year when we reach that many >>>>>> automobile deaths, or flu deaths, or heart disease deaths, or any other >>>>>> deaths in a specific category? Sensationalism and fear mongering rule the >>>>>> day. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 8:59 PM Steve Jones < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Why is that surprising. How many people did we put in country >>>>>>> throughout the war? There are 330 million here. If we had put 330 >>>>>>> million >>>>>>> through Vietnam, we would have "won" and lost even more. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I keep seeing the Vietnam thing and then laugh at the thought that >>>>>>> those present it also present statistics >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 8:37 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Interesting that today, April 28, we surpassed in a couple of >>>>>>>> months the number of US personnel killed in the Vietnam war over the >>>>>>>> course >>>>>>>> of 20 years (1955-1975). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> bp >>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 4/28/2020 6:46 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: image] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Lewis Bergman >>>>> 325-439-0533 Cell >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> ------------------------------ >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >
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