as a percentage of the gyana population, he kilt the shit out of them
On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 12:35 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
> I didn't know Jim Jones got that many people.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 4/29/2020 10:20 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> The only comparison is the number. Number killed in the conflict. Number
> killed by the virus. Number killed by Jim Jones.
> If the number is big enough people care. If the deaths happen is a short
> amount of time people care more.
> It was just a milepost number. Hopefully we don’t get to Civil War
> numbers. Or holocaust numbers.
>
> Not sure how you can use a factoid like that as fear mongering. It is
> just an idle curiosity. It is not an insignificant number of deaths.
> People seemed to be much more afraid of killer bees.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2020 11:14 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Hope?
>
> " 9,087,000 military personnel served on active duty during the *Vietnam*
> Era (Aug 5, 1964 – May 7, 1975). 2 8,744,000 GIs were on active duty during
> the war (Aug 5, 1964 – March 28, 1973). 3. 2,709,918 Americans served in
> *Vietnam* , this number represents 9.7% of their generation"
>
> http://www.uswardogs.org/vietnam-statistics/
>
> 58,202 deaths
>
> Now. You actually have the numbers to compare
> 2,709,918 over 9 years
>
> 58,202 of those 2,709,918 died over those 9 years
>
> You see where this is going?
>
> now extrapolate over 9 year, noting that all experts say kungflu is in
> all probability going to be moot after the 3rd season based on standard
> viral activity.
>
> We will go with 100k deaths this season to keep the fear mongering strong.
> Next season will be 50k, third season 25k, negligible on following seasons.
>
> so 175k deaths out of 330,000,000 pesrons (we wont even address birth
> rates and how many more people over 9 years that is)
>
> for reference, assuming 330 million went over with the same outcomes, we
> would have to see 7,087,542.8 china-virus deaths to be an equitable
> comparison
>
> So, basically comparing the rona to vietnam tells us that rona isnt even
> a rednecks piss in the ocean comparatively
>
>
> The fear mongering fails when put up against the real world. So when 7
> million US citizens die from kungflu, ill take that comparison as having
> any merit beyond an attempt to startle the sheep
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 11:57 AM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> My point wasn't fear mongering, but to put some kind of perspective on
>> it. The observation I had was that Vietnam killed about 241 people per
>> month (on average) vs the CV19 killing more than 100 times that. Comparing
>> to flu is semi-relevant as it is also a virus, except that we know how to
>> make vaccines in semi-anticipation of it, and it is considerably less
>> deadly either way.
>>
>> If you can't measure it, you don't know what you have.
>>
>>
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>> On 4/29/2020 9:41 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>>
>> The point was that there are lots of things that cause as many deaths or
>> more, but we aren't comparing them to people killed in Vietnam. They
>> specifically did this to try to raise an emotional point with people who
>> are touchy about the Vietnam conflict. It is just as relevant to compare
>> auto deaths with war casualties as it is with a virus. Neither have
>> anything to do with each other. It is fear mongering plain and simple.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 10:30 AM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Flu has vaccine and Tamiflu. Without those, Flue would probably clear
>>> 2-300k annually. if we wanted to compare apples and apples.
>>> look to where the data saying that the destructin of society was
>>> effective is coming from. Its only coming from places that gain by that.
>>> Here is a secret, we didnt actually isolate. the stores are packed more
>>> than before, people who normally wouldnt have interacted are passing one
>>> another then came home and compressed families. We hot boxed is all that
>>> actually took place.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 9:48 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I guess the difference is, you don’t do anything different and 66,000
>>>> people will get flu.
>>>> That is what the estimate is up to April 10 this year. We live with
>>>> it. Mostly old folks.
>>>>
>>>> But behaving the same way and you may have 300,000 corona deaths in
>>>> addition to the regular flu.
>>>> Just breathing on someone doesn’t give them the flu.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Lewis Bergman
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2020 8:31 AM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Hope?
>>>>
>>>> I don't think those are great comparisons but I think the Flu is.
>>>> 66,000 died last year from the flu in the US and we still managed to walk
>>>> around and shake hands. But hey, if you think you might die, stay home.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 9:04 AM Cameron Crum <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why don't we put out graphs every year when we reach that many
>>>>> automobile deaths, or flu deaths, or heart disease deaths, or any other
>>>>> deaths in a specific category? Sensationalism and fear mongering rule the
>>>>> day.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 8:59 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why is that surprising. How many people did we put in country
>>>>>> throughout the war? There are 330 million here. If we had put 330 million
>>>>>> through Vietnam, we would have "won" and lost even more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I keep seeing the Vietnam thing and then laugh at the thought that
>>>>>> those present it also present statistics
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 8:37 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interesting that today, April 28, we surpassed in a couple of months
>>>>>>> the number of US personnel killed in the Vietnam war over the course of
>>>>>>> 20
>>>>>>> years (1955-1975).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/28/2020 6:46 AM, [email protected] wrote:
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