Correct - no way to tell who is bidding. The complete list of bidders is public knowledge: https://www.fcc.gov/document/auction-105-35-ghz-qualified-bidders <https://www.fcc.gov/document/auction-105-35-ghz-qualified-bidders>
Which counties those 271 bidders are bidding on is only known by the FCC Mark > On Jul 28, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I assume the 14 or 15 bidders is a closely guarded secret? I can't begin to > think who would be able to pay 30k around here for that besides > Verizon/AT&T/Sprint... > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 11:37 AM Mark Radabaugh <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Note that the confidentiality and anti collusion rules apply for anyone who > filed the short form. Be very careful that what you say in here does not > violate the FCC rules. > > Everything discussed so far is from the public information the FCC is > releasing or from the auction public notice. > > To read the results Josh posted: > > The price does not include discounts - 75% of the posted price if you > qualified as being under 25M/year in revenue - so closer to 27k There is > also a rural provider credit. > > It reads: > > In the initial round the price of one 10Mhz PAL was $21,000 not counting any > discounts you may have been eligible for. There were 14 bids at that price, > with only 7 lots available. > In the second round the price of one PAL was $24,000 (less discounts). > There were 15 bids at that price, with only 7 available. > > In the 5th round the price for one PAL went up to $33,000 (less discounts) > with demand down to 10 PAL’s. The price went up for ALL 7 of the PAL’s. > > The price will keep going up until the demand is equal to 7. Once demand > gets to 7 there is still a posted price increase - but unless someone adds > additional demand the price will stay at the previous start of round price. > > The price/demand could sit at 7 for the next (insert number) of rounds and > then start going back up if another bidder decides they are priced out of one > county and want to move to another county. Or if they are just playing games. > > Once a county is at or above a demand for 7 PAL’s the price won’t go down. > If you get a PAL in a round and later decide you don’t want it, you are > stuck buying it unless someone else bids at the higher price. You can > change your demand to 0, saying you don’t want it anymore, but unless someone > else wants it you are stuck with it. Just like a normal auction - once you > are the winning bidder, you own it unless someone outbids you. > > For bidders there are required activity levels that you have to meet. > Essentially you have to bid 95% of your initial deposit on each round. If > you don’t bid that what you are allowed to bid in the next round goes down. > The rule is basically to keep bidders from sandbagging - if you haven’t been > bidding and are just waiting to see what others are going to do you will run > out of eligibility pretty quickly. > > Mark > >> On Jul 28, 2020, at 10:24 AM, Cassidy B. Larson <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> It’s up to 37k per 10mhz block. Demand is going down though! lol >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 28, 2020, at 08:22, Josh Luthman <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> No idea how to read this: >>> >>> <image.png> >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:20 AM Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> Josh, >>> >>> Is your county up to 30k per 10mhz block? >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:08 AM Josh Baird <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> Assuming it's too late at this point to get into the initial rounds that >>> are taking place this week? >>> >>> Haven't really been keeping up with this. >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 9:54 AM Adam Moffett <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> I also lost track of the whole auction situation. Will there be another >>> round later? Seems like nobody bid on some of the counties around us, and >>> I wish I'd thrown in a minimum bid at this point. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 7/28/2020 12:40 AM, Steve Jones wrote: >>>> Our starting bid was relatively inexpensive over the ten year term for our >>>> 5 counties and 4 pals each. Almost had the boss talked into giving it >>>> serious consideration so i could pull the trigger on the auction. then the >>>> world ended and that got back burnered. byt the time we came back to it >>>> there was no time to learn enough about the auction >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 9:54 PM Dave <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> My guess is none... >>>> >>>> Im sooo sick of the BS games the FCC and 'BIG BOYZ' Are playing. >>>> >>>> So funny how they say "Sure anyone can get a pal" >>>> >>>> FCC should have shoved a big FU to all WISPs and just let us die. >>>> >>>> When I first saw the pricing on our county and surrounding countys for >>>> bid I knew there was no chance. >>>> >>>> Let the lawsuits FLY... >>>> >>>> >>>> On 7/27/2020 5:51 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: >>>> > On 7/27/20 15:42, Mark Radabaugh wrote: >>>> >> https://auctiondata.fcc.gov/public/projects/auction105 >>>> >> <https://auctiondata.fcc.gov/public/projects/auction105> >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > I'm curious to see how many WISPs actually get a PAL when this is all >>>> > done. >>>> > >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >>>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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