The radios are gone from that building, and the 30' monopole on the south side of the street is now empty. I think there are 2 dishes left on the light pole.

I think they pulled everything off the monopole about the time they actually got the electric service ran. It was running off a portable generator for almost a year.

On 9/1/2020 11:38 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
oh, wow, not even as a backup? Dang.



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And they've removed all their radios from it now. It's just sitting there empty.

On 9/1/2020 11:21 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

    *nods*


    
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-03-08/the-gazillion-dollar-standoff-over-two-high-frequency-trading-towers


    "In 2016, Jump Trading paid $14 million for the 31-acre plot where
    the building sits to be close to the CME center."

    That 31-acre plot is just above the datacenter in the picture. The
    only thing they've used it for is that brick building with shrubs
    around it right at the street.



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    *From: *"Nate Burke" <[email protected]>
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    *Sent: *Tuesday, September 1, 2020 11:11:48 AM
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    LOL 'Enough Money'  These are traders we're talking about.  They
    have bottomless pockets.  They'll spend $100M on a project just to
    see if it works, then abandon it 6 months later.  The tower owners
    we talk to hate these guys, they come in, spend a ton of money on
    buildouts, then just stop paying rent a few months down the way
    and abandon everything.  They've learned to just charge a lot up
    front, and these guys will pay it.

    On 9/1/2020 10:57 AM, [email protected] wrote:

        Enough money behind it, they might be able to get a channel on
        every HF band.
        You don’t need to send much info to by or sell.  I wonder if a
        troposcatter system could be licensed?
        Or launch a stratosphere balloon to use as an analog repeater.
        *From:* Caleb Knauer
        *Sent:* Tuesday, September 1, 2020 9:35 AM
        *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ultra low latency PTP
        Interesting. I’ll check it out.
        On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 11:19 AM Nate Burke
        <[email protected]> wrote:











            It seems most of what I still notice are the Cielo
            radios.  But

            almost all of the HFT Guys in Chicago have switched over
            to the

            Ionosphere antennas.  Where they have the huge yagi
            antennas with

            just a single licensed link back to the Datacenter.  I can
            count 10

            different sites within 15 miles that are using this
            setup.  One of

            the towers we are on is in the process of installing a 3
            antenna

            system, 30'x40' antennas at 100', 125' and 150'.  Single
            licensed

            radio back to the CME datacenter.





            On 9/1/2020 10:03 AM, Mike Hammett

            wrote:








                There is a whole other class of

                low-latency wireless gear. FEC is removed. ARQ is
                nowhere to be

                found.






                The radios are optimized so that the data spends as few

                picoseconds as possible in the radio.











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                *From:

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                *To: *[email protected]


                *Sent: *Tuesday, September 1, 2020 9:47:00 AM


                *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Ultra low latency PTP





                All the licensed gear I know of is full duplex, and

                should have near wire speed latency. The latency should be

                proportional to the link distance.








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                On 9/1/2020 7:36 AM, Caleb

                Knauer wrote:






                    Anybody here up to date on current ultra low latency

                    licensed PTP gear?  Like in HFT networks. Trying
                    to round

                    up the current players.









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