It comes down to complexity. Ericsson, Nokia, etc are all cellular brands and to run and manage those complex LTE networks, you need full time engineers to manage, debug, and optimize things.
Cambium is so easy, in comparison, there's very little extra learning to do in order to get it running great. Ericsson LTE probably would require months of training and needing to hire someone just to run the gear or hire expensive consultants to do it for you. On Sat, Sep 12, 2020, 9:49 AM Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote: > 450m is the only way to do, especially if your already using the 450 > platform in other parts of your network, there is an operator in my area > with the Ericson system and they had a ton of issues with getting it up and > running, not even sure if they ever got it all resolved. > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 9:00 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: > >> Yup what josh said lol. >> >> We tried the LTE thing and glad we switch to 450m...much easier. >> >> -Sean >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 4:43 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Having done one LTE vendor and 450m the only mistake I made was not >>> buying the 450m sooner. >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g> >>> Suite 1337 >>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g> >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 5:54 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> And yeah, 450m might be expensive, but so is all the LTE stuff. >>>> >>>> You'll max out the legal EIRP with 450m, and get 8x8 MIMO. I think >>>> >>>> part of the magic with LTE is that it will connect with ridiculously >>>> >>>> low signal, but on a fixed system you probably won't really want the >>>> >>>> trashy signals anyway. >>>> >>>> >>>> Cambium also has LTE for whatever it's worth. The CBRS version >>>> >>>> is supposed to be available relatively soon (though I forget >>>> >>>> precisely when). >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't know if I state it as "fewer issues since there is no >>>> >>>> EPC", but definitely fewer complexities and fewer things to worry >>>> >>>> about. The connection from eNB to EPC has to be *pristine*, >>>> >>>> and the EPC comes with its own set of new terminology and new >>>> >>>> concepts to figure out. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/11/2020 4:06 PM, Darin Steffl >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have seen lots to people doing 450M in CBRS >>>> >>>> stating coverage is nearly the same as LTE but way better speeds >>>> >>>> and triple the aggregate capacity due to mu-mimo. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Way fewer issues too since there is no EPC. Just >>>> >>>> straight layer 2 with no bullshit. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020, 2:39 PM >>>> >>>> David Coudron <david.coud...@advantenon.com> >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We are looking at a new area to >>>>> >>>>> expand out network that has a lot more tree cover than >>>>> >>>>> our current footprint. We are thinking with the >>>>> >>>>> combination of CBRS and LTE, that we might be able to >>>>> >>>>> offer better coverage than with traditional fixed >>>>> >>>>> wireless options. We have started conversations with >>>>> >>>>> the following vendors, wondering if anyone has any hands >>>>> >>>>> on experience with any of them and what their >>>>> >>>>> impressions were: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Blinq >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Airspan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Baicells >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ericsson >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Ericsson equipment is in a class >>>>> >>>>> by itself price wise, but the others are similarly >>>>> >>>>> priced, and somewhere around double the price of PMP 450 >>>>> >>>>> stuff. Normally we would add more tower sites for >>>>> >>>>> better coverage, but this project will need to be done >>>>> >>>>> before the end of the year and building towers isn’t an >>>>> >>>>> option. We have good enough spread on the towers that >>>>> >>>>> we think we can do this with PMP 450 APs, but are >>>>> >>>>> thinking we’d get even better coverage out of LTE. Any >>>>> >>>>> opinions on the reliability and the manageability of the >>>>> >>>>> four vendors above? Sorry for such an open ended >>>>> >>>>> question, but not sure what to ask to be more >>>>> >>>>> specific. We know that we will have the LTE stuff to >>>>> >>>>> deal with like access to an EPC and so on, so not so >>>>> >>>>> much worried about that as more the manufacturers >>>>> >>>>> themselves. Baicells concerns us as they may get >>>>> >>>>> lumped in with Huawei. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> David Coudron >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> AF mailing list >>>> >>>> >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> AF mailing list >>> >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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