It was an empty threat.  Nothing ever came from it.  

From: Daniel White 
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 6:30 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cambium ceragon 820

Except SAF... right Chuck ;-)

Years ago I was party to the contracts SAF signed with RFS and Commscope for 
antennas, and they both included boilerplate language about the interface 
design and that it could only be sold to the manufacturer, etc.  But that was 
from the antenna vendor side.  If the radio manufacturer intends to enforce 
anything about the design... well that is a different story.

As I wrote before - unless it is a 4ft antenna or larger or has some unique 
restrictions that cause replacement to be a real problem... I'd just buy the 
new antenna.  Generally, since radios you are upgrading to will have high 
modulation specs you probably will want to upgrade antennas anyways to get 
higher availability for the higher performance. 

But all of that is "in general."  I'm the first one to realize there are 
situations where keeping what is there is far better.


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  [email protected] 15, 2020 at 17:03
  Never had a problem, I have interfaced with lots of antennas and radios over 
the year.  

  From: Ken Hohhof 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 4:53 PM
  To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cambium ceragon 820

  I was in a rush to send that photo and apparently didn’t succeed in attaching 
it to the email.

   

  Also, you might get a call from Cambium’s (or Ceragon’s) lawyers.  I know 
they don’t let Andrew and Radiowaves sell the antennas with the Ceragon mount 
direct to end customers.  So they are apparently protective of their mount.  I 
think someone once posted – it might have been you Daniel – that most or all of 
the licensed radio manufacturers are that way.

   

  From: AF mailto:[email protected] On Behalf Of Daniel White
  Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 4:47 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:[email protected]
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cambium ceragon 820

   


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  Ken HohhofSeptember 15, 2020 at 16:53
  I was in a rush to send that photo and apparently didn’t succeed in attaching 
it to the email.

   

  Also, you might get a call from Cambium’s (or Ceragon’s) lawyers.  I know 
they don’t let Andrew and Radiowaves sell the antennas with the Ceragon mount 
direct to end customers.  So they are apparently protective of their mount.  I 
think someone once posted – it might have been you Daniel – that most or all of 
the licensed radio manufacturers are that way.

   

  From: AF mailto:[email protected] On Behalf Of Daniel White
  Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 4:47 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:[email protected]
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cambium ceragon 820

   




  Daniel WhiteSeptember 15, 2020 at 15:46
  It almost never makes sense to retrofit a 2ft antenna IMHO.  3ft possibly.  

  I also imagine as soon as Cambium hears coax and "old AF11" antenna in any 
troubleshooting conversation they are going to clam up and blame that.

  I'd just replace the antennas.  


  [email protected] 15, 2020 at 09:59
  Thanks.
  I have had a request to make a connectorizing kit to allow these radios to be 
used with AF11X antennas.  
  Not sure it is economically feasible.  Especially if I have to add a way to 
hang the radio as well.  

  From: Adam Moffett 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 9:52 AM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cambium ceragon 820

  Installation guide has some graphics:

  
https://www.sicetelecom.it/Reserved-Area/Ceragon/Ceragon_FibeAir_IP-20C_Installation_Guide_Rev_D.03.pdf





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  Adam MoffettSeptember 15, 2020 at 09:52
  Installation guide has some graphics:

  
https://www.sicetelecom.it/Reserved-Area/Ceragon/Ceragon_FibeAir_IP-20C_Installation_Guide_Rev_D.03.pdf





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