So it kind of raises the question, why not pay them the experienced rate, and fire them in a month if they don’t learn.
Or if it’s a productivity difference not a quality difference, does it make sense to keep on the less proficient ones and pay them less to compensate for the lower productivity? I’m assuming a drill operator is part of a team, while a splicer is on his own? It would seem that a competent but slow person would hold the whole team back, hurting your overall productivity and pissing off other employees. Also out of curiosity, are these always guys? I see women on road construction crews. It would be interesting to see if there is any difference in the work attitudes, competence, learning rates, etc. between males and females. A lot of women have taken the brunt of staying home with kids doing remote learning. If the guys aren’t willing to work, maybe they should stay home with the kids and let the womenfolk go out and do the drilling and splicing. From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 10:38 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT compensation A week if they had the opportunity. But a brand new guy will not get to this level of proficiency in a week. An experienced splicer could do this in a week. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 9:18 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT compensation How long would that typically take, assuming the person isn’t a total dolt. From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 10:01 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT compensation A splicer is pretty good if they have done 5 splice cases perfectly and 1000 perfect burns. A driller is probably pretty good if they have drilled and pulled back 5000’ without issue. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 8:19 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT compensation How long does it take to train a fully competent drill operator or fiber splicer? And what is the difference between competency levels? More miles per day or splices per hour? Or are we talking broken drill rods and bad splices? Not trying to make a point, just asking. From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 9:11 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT compensation Not around here. Good operators start at $19 if they are lucky. If someone walks in the door with all of these skills we will pay them $20 or $21 to start. But we will never see that person walk in. They are already working somewhere else for more. This is just list showing the zeros that we hire how they can make more money. Obviously learning is involved. How else to incent them? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 30, 2020, at 7:15 AM, Chris Fabien <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Chuck, I like your idea but I think the pay for each category is too low for some of them. A competent drill operator or splicer should be worth much more than $16/hr. Likewise a guy that can literally do any job in the company is probably a $30/hr guy not $20/hr. On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 7:16 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: I am considering telling all new interviewees that we start at $15/hour but they can make more quickly according to this schedule. And we also do COLA and Merit increases every 6 months. Love to have feedback on this idea. Please note my new email address: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com _____ -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com _____ -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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