this thing is just getting started, gents. It's only Monday. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-ag-barr-authorizes-federal-prosecutors-pursue-substantial-allegations-voting-irregularities-2020-election-certified/
RealClearPolitics un-calls Pennsylvania for Biden. The state is grey on their map, now. Was Blue yesterday. I do not understand the vitriol against Mr Trump. He's been an excellent President for all Americans. No I didn't ask... I can read everyone's comments, and I have. For years. -- On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 6:16 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: > I wish they could invent a secure method to vote online. But it has to be > resistant to buying and selling votes. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 9, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > > > It's pretty straight forward to verify integrity of the vote. We have > already dont it with covid test results. We are blind ballot meaning no one > can see who you voted for. Covid result eliminated anyone's ability to > claim their vote was stolen or manipulated since you can check your results > with your code. You can do the same without recording a name. > If there is any question of validity in a count, it can be verified, > fairly quickly. > > Covid built us a system to have a secure vote. Inadvertant side effects > are the best side effects. > You register, you are assigned your key. Your registration can be verified > legitimate. You can even vote online. The tracing infrastructure can be > used to canvass a contested district for verification of vote accuracy. > > This is the last election where fraud can be claimed... inadvertant, as is > most of the left's mistakes > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 12:20 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The advantage to that is that the records will probably last a long time. >> OTOH, storage might become an issue. >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> On 11/9/2020 10:16 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: >> >> In our county, we have to quarry a stone tablet, cart it down to the >> office, make an X with a tar crayon, and be able to lift on to the ballet >> cart to have the vote count. >> >> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 10:10 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Our county typically uses touchscreen machines for in-person voting, >>> both early and day-of. (A paper tape record is also printed out and can be >>> verified by the voter) Obviously these are very quick to process. >>> >>> >>> >>> Early voting sites were open for 15 days prior to the election. In >>> addition, there was one early voting site open 40 days prior to the >>> election, but it used paper ballots. Basically you filled out the same >>> form as a mail-in ballot, sealed it, and dropped it in a box. That’s how I >>> voted and I was disappointed that was the process, I thought they would >>> scan them through a “tabulator” as the last step, just like back when we >>> used paper ballots for day-of voting. I expected as the last step before >>> leaving I would feed the paper ballot into a scanner. Instead I sealed it >>> in an envelope and dropped it in a box. >>> >>> >>> >>> All the paper ballots including early in-person and mail-in were >>> required to sit in the locked boxes until something like 7am on election >>> day before they could start processing them. This was apparently also the >>> case in many battleground states. They weren’t even allowed to open the >>> envelopes, uncrease the forms, check signatures, nothing. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince >>> *Sent:* Monday, November 9, 2020 9:52 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>> >>> >>> >>> In our county (and I have no idea if this is the norm in the rest of the >>> state), they count them as they come in, but hold the results in a secure >>> area until the close of the in-person polls. Ballots that are postmarked >>> (if they were mailed) up until the day of the election will be accepted for >>> a certain amount of time, but I don't know how long that is. >>> >>> We also have an online ballot tracking system. After we dropped our >>> ballots off, we could go to a ballot status web site that told us (1) if >>> the ballot had been received, and (2) if it had been accepted. It took 48 >>> hours for our ballots to show up in that system. I presume if our ballots >>> had not been accepted, there is some sort of mechanism to go fix that, but >>> I've never had to use it. >>> >>> >>> >>> bp >>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> On 11/9/2020 7:25 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>> Yes, some states are doing exactly that. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Adam Moffett >>> >>> *Sent:* Monday, November 9, 2020 8:09 AM >>> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>> >>> >>> >>> Scan them as they go, but don't publish the ongoing count. >>> >>> On 11/8/2020 4:45 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>> I think vote by mail and scan them as they arrive is the way to go. >>> That way when the polls close you have an immediate count. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Bill Prince >>> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 8, 2020 2:38 PM >>> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>> >>> >>> >>> The whole punch card voting "system" was doomed from the beginning. I >>> remember using it when I lived in Santa Clara County 30 years ago or so. >>> Even when you punched out a hole properly, the chads would sometime stick >>> or hang on a corner. >>> >>> For quite some time now, we've been using the paper ballots where you >>> fill in the square or the circle. >>> >>> I've also been registered as a permanent absentee for over a decade. >>> When I voted (almost a month ago now), we filled out our ballots at the >>> kitchen counter, and took them to a drop box the next day when we were >>> running errands in town. The actual act of "voting" (if you want to call it >>> that) took less than 1 minute as we just dropped the ballots off at one of >>> dozens of drop boxes all over the county.Our county has (IIRC) 39 drop >>> boxes for a population of ~~ 750,000, or about 1 drop box for every 20,000 >>> people. >>> >>> Pennsylvania still hasn't started counting the late arrival absentee >>> ballots. All of the ones they've counted so far arrived before November 3, >>> but for reasons I don't understand were not allowed to be counted until >>> after the day-of voting. From the things I've read, there are only about >>> 85,000 of them, and they are unlikely to do anything but extend Biden's >>> cushion. >>> >>> I (for one) would be in favor of uniform voting/counting standards. >>> Perhaps it would be a violation of state's rights, but on the other hand, >>> there would be a lot less confusion when the time for voting comes around. >>> >>> >>> >>> bp >>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> On 11/8/2020 11:08 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>> >>> Stop the vote in Pennsylvania but keep counting in Arizona. It’s a >>> Maxwell’s Demon approach. Open the door when it helps me, close the door >>> when it helps the other guy. >>> >>> That’s probably why the Supremes stopped the recounts in Bush v Gore, >>> the Gore camp wanted to keep looking for errors but only in the counties >>> where they thought it would help them. But also the votes had already been >>> counted (and recounted). And there was the original Florida Man, some guy >>> named Hanging Chad? And the phone call and the retraction. >>> >>> Democrats to this day take it as gospel that Gore was robbed. That does >>> not bode well for half the country moving on from this election. >>> >>> *From:* AF mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]> *On >>> Behalf Of *Bill Prince >>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 8, 2020 12:02 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>> >>> In Michigan we're demanding a recount. In Wisconsin we're demanding a >>> decount. In Georgia it's opposites day. >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LmFVEi5Jd0 >>> >>> bp >>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> On 11/7/2020 8:27 PM, justsumname wrote: >>> >>> The declaration that Biden has won is premature. This thing hasn't >>> really gotten started yet. >>> >>> Judges don't hold court on the weekends. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 6:40 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yes good movie. >>> >>> More akin to today is Seven Days in May...March, Douglas, Lancaster... >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2020, 4:22 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> The Founding Fathers didn’t account for the rise of political parties, >>> which came soon enough. >>> >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College#Original_plan >>> >>> Somehow I’m reminded of the movie The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. Set >>> in the fading days of the old west with territories becoming states and >>> deciding who to elect as their representatives. Should it be Jimmy Stewart >>> the righteous lawyer, or Lee Marvin the outlaw gang leader? The old >>> fashioned idea that you sent the brightest and best educated person to >>> Washington to represent you. Hah! Politicians are not held in great >>> esteem today, and we would probably vote for Liberty Valance. I assume >>> everyone has seen the movie. It’s an old John Ford western, in fact he >>> shot it in B&W, but it’s a must see. Look at the cast – Jimmy Stewart, >>> John Wayne, Lee Marvin, Vera Miles, Andy Devine, Edmond O’Brien, John >>> Caradine, Lee Van Cleef. >>> >>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince >>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 7, 2020 4:46 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>> >>> The three-fifths compromise was enacted long before California existed. >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-fifths_Compromise >>> >>> >>> >>> bp >>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> On 11/7/2020 12:54 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: >>> >>> Uhhhh. No. The EC was created so that California has the same voice >>> power as Rhode Island. >>> >>> On Nov 7, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Bill Prince mailto:[email protected] >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Could have been over on Tuesday if we didn't have the silly Electoral >>> College shenanigans; which actually evolved from the crazy slave is 3/5 of >>> a person nonsense. Here we are ~~ 250 years later and we're still dealing >>> with decisions we made about slaves. >>> >>> bp >>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> On 11/7/2020 11:15 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: >>> >>> We have spoken. >>> >>> Righteous Indignation >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> >> >> -- >> Lewis Bergman >> 325-439-0533 Cell >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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