The memes will be epic. The memelords havent even started shitposting,
which is odd.  This is a 2 of 10 gem. The covid death memes from the street
"celebrations" are going to be particularly ruthless.


On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 10:26 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote:

> God this is more entertaining than 2016
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 10:12 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Barr is a Trump puppet.
>> https://www.facebook.com/1542846845827136/posts/3249813925130411/?sfnsn=mo
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 7:07 PM Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> The only thing just getting started is the next level of FUD from the DUD
>>>
>>> On 11/9/20 5:51 PM, Chuck Macenski wrote:
>>>
>>> From Wikipedia: *The Gateway Pundit* is an American far-right
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_right_(United_States)>[9]
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gateway_Pundit#cite_note-9> news and
>>> opinion website. The website is known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes,
>>> and conspiracy theories
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theories>.[17]
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gateway_Pundit#cite_note-17>
>>>
>>> If someone has credible evidence that would overturn the election, it
>>> should absolutely be brought before the courts. At the moment, all of the
>>> evidence seems to point to a fair election where Donald Trump lost by over
>>> 4,000,000 votes.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 7:34 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bullshit ..pure Bullshit
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 5:39 PM justsumname <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> this thing is just getting started, gents.   It's only Monday.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-ag-barr-authorizes-federal-prosecutors-pursue-substantial-allegations-voting-irregularities-2020-election-certified/
>>>>>
>>>>> RealClearPolitics un-calls Pennsylvania for Biden.   The state is grey
>>>>> on their map, now.   Was Blue yesterday.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not understand the vitriol against Mr Trump.   He's been an
>>>>> excellent President for all Americans.
>>>>> No I didn't ask... I can read everyone's comments, and I have.   For
>>>>> years.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 6:16 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I wish they could invent a secure method to vote online.  But it has
>>>>>> to be resistant to buying and selling votes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's pretty straight forward to verify integrity of the vote. We have
>>>>>> already dont it with covid test results. We are blind ballot meaning no 
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> can see who you voted for. Covid result eliminated anyone's ability to
>>>>>> claim their vote was stolen or manipulated since you can check your 
>>>>>> results
>>>>>> with your code. You can do the same without recording a name.
>>>>>> If there is any question of validity in a count, it can be verified,
>>>>>> fairly quickly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Covid built us a system to have a secure vote. Inadvertant side
>>>>>> effects are the best side effects.
>>>>>> You register, you are assigned your key. Your registration can be
>>>>>> verified legitimate. You can even vote online. The tracing infrastructure
>>>>>> can be used to canvass a contested district for verification of vote
>>>>>> accuracy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is the last election where fraud can be claimed... inadvertant,
>>>>>> as is most of the left's mistakes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 12:20 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The advantage to that is that the records will probably last a long
>>>>>>> time. OTOH, storage might become an issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/9/2020 10:16 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In our county, we have to quarry a stone tablet, cart it down to the
>>>>>>> office, make an X with a tar crayon, and be able to lift on to the 
>>>>>>> ballet
>>>>>>> cart to have the vote count.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 10:10 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Our county typically uses touchscreen machines for in-person
>>>>>>>> voting, both early and day-of.  (A paper tape record is also printed 
>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>> and can be verified by the voter)  Obviously these are very quick to
>>>>>>>> process.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Early voting sites were open for 15 days prior to the election.  In
>>>>>>>> addition, there was one early voting site open 40 days prior to the
>>>>>>>> election, but it used paper ballots.  Basically you filled out the same
>>>>>>>> form as a mail-in ballot, sealed it, and dropped it in a box.  That’s 
>>>>>>>> how I
>>>>>>>> voted and I was disappointed that was the process, I thought they would
>>>>>>>> scan them through a “tabulator” as the last step, just like back when 
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> used paper ballots for day-of voting.  I expected as the last step 
>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>> leaving I would feed the paper ballot into a scanner.  Instead I 
>>>>>>>> sealed it
>>>>>>>> in an envelope and dropped it in a box.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All the paper ballots including early in-person and mail-in were
>>>>>>>> required to sit in the locked boxes until something like 7am on 
>>>>>>>> election
>>>>>>>> day before they could start processing them.  This was apparently also 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> case in many battleground states.  They weren’t even allowed to open 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> envelopes, uncrease the forms, check signatures, nothing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 9, 2020 9:52 AM
>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In our county (and I have no idea if this is the norm in the rest
>>>>>>>> of the state), they count them as they come in, but hold the results 
>>>>>>>> in a
>>>>>>>> secure area until the close of the in-person polls. Ballots that are
>>>>>>>> postmarked (if they were mailed) up until the day of the election will 
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> accepted for a certain amount of time, but I don't know how long that 
>>>>>>>> is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We also have an online ballot tracking system. After we dropped our
>>>>>>>> ballots off, we could go to a ballot status web site that told us (1) 
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>> the ballot had been received, and (2) if it had been accepted. It took 
>>>>>>>> 48
>>>>>>>> hours for our ballots to show up in that system. I presume if our 
>>>>>>>> ballots
>>>>>>>> had not been accepted, there is some sort of mechanism to go fix that, 
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> I've never had to use it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/9/2020 7:25 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, some states are doing exactly that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 9, 2020 8:09 AM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Scan them as they go, but don't publish the ongoing count.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/8/2020 4:45 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think vote by mail and scan them as they arrive is the way to
>>>>>>>> go.  That way when the polls close you have an immediate count.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* Bill Prince
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 8, 2020 2:38 PM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The whole punch card voting "system"  was doomed from the
>>>>>>>> beginning. I remember using it when I lived in Santa Clara County  30 
>>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>>> ago or so. Even when you punched out a hole properly, the chads would
>>>>>>>> sometime stick or hang on a corner.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For quite some time now, we've been using the paper ballots where
>>>>>>>> you fill in the square or the circle.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've also been registered as a permanent absentee for over a
>>>>>>>> decade. When I voted (almost a month ago now), we filled out our 
>>>>>>>> ballots at
>>>>>>>> the kitchen counter, and took them to a drop box the next day when we 
>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>> running errands in town. The actual act of "voting" (if you want to 
>>>>>>>> call it
>>>>>>>> that) took less than 1 minute as we just dropped the ballots off at 
>>>>>>>> one of
>>>>>>>> dozens of drop boxes all over the county.Our county has (IIRC) 39 drop
>>>>>>>> boxes for a population of ~~ 750,000, or about 1 drop box for every 
>>>>>>>> 20,000
>>>>>>>> people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pennsylvania still hasn't started counting the late arrival
>>>>>>>> absentee ballots. All of the ones they've counted so far arrived before
>>>>>>>> November 3, but for reasons I don't understand were not allowed to be
>>>>>>>> counted until after the day-of voting. From the things I've read, 
>>>>>>>> there are
>>>>>>>> only about 85,000 of them, and they are unlikely to do anything but 
>>>>>>>> extend
>>>>>>>> Biden's cushion.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I (for one) would be in favor of uniform voting/counting standards.
>>>>>>>> Perhaps it would be a violation of state's rights, but on the other 
>>>>>>>> hand,
>>>>>>>> there would be a lot less confusion when the time for voting comes 
>>>>>>>> around.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/8/2020 11:08 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stop the vote in Pennsylvania but keep counting in Arizona.  It’s a
>>>>>>>> Maxwell’s Demon approach.  Open the door when it helps me, close the 
>>>>>>>> door
>>>>>>>> when it helps the other guy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That’s probably why the Supremes stopped the recounts in Bush v
>>>>>>>> Gore, the Gore camp wanted to keep looking for errors but only in the
>>>>>>>> counties where they thought it would help them.  But also the votes had
>>>>>>>> already been counted (and recounted).  And there was the original 
>>>>>>>> Florida
>>>>>>>> Man, some guy named Hanging Chad?  And the phone call and the 
>>>>>>>> retraction.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Democrats to this day take it as gospel that Gore was robbed.  That
>>>>>>>> does not bode well for half the country moving on from this election.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* AF mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]> *On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 8, 2020 12:02 PM
>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In Michigan we're demanding a recount. In Wisconsin we're demanding
>>>>>>>> a decount. In Georgia it's opposites day.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LmFVEi5Jd0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/7/2020 8:27 PM, justsumname wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The declaration that Biden has won is premature.   This thing
>>>>>>>> hasn't really gotten started yet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Judges don't hold court on the weekends.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 6:40 PM Jaime Solorza <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes good movie.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More akin to today is Seven Days in May...March, Douglas,
>>>>>>>> Lancaster...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2020, 4:22 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Founding Fathers didn’t account for the rise of political
>>>>>>>> parties, which came soon enough.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College#Original_plan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Somehow I’m reminded of the movie The Man Who Shot Liberty
>>>>>>>> Valance.  Set in the fading days of the old west with territories 
>>>>>>>> becoming
>>>>>>>> states and deciding who to elect as their representatives.  Should it 
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> Jimmy Stewart the righteous lawyer, or Lee Marvin the outlaw gang 
>>>>>>>> leader?
>>>>>>>> The old fashioned idea that you sent the brightest and best educated 
>>>>>>>> person
>>>>>>>> to Washington to represent you.  Hah!  Politicians are not held in 
>>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>>> esteem today, and we would probably vote for Liberty Valance.  I assume
>>>>>>>> everyone has seen the movie.  It’s an old John Ford western, in fact he
>>>>>>>> shot it in B&W, but it’s a must see.  Look at the cast – Jimmy Stewart,
>>>>>>>> John Wayne, Lee Marvin, Vera Miles, Andy Devine, Edmond O’Brien, John
>>>>>>>> Caradine, Lee Van Cleef.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 7, 2020 4:46 PM
>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The three-fifths compromise was enacted long before California
>>>>>>>> existed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-fifths_Compromise
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/7/2020 12:54 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Uhhhh. No. The EC was created so that California has the same voice
>>>>>>>> power as Rhode Island.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Bill Prince mailto:[email protected]
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Could have been over on Tuesday if we didn't have the silly
>>>>>>>> Electoral College shenanigans; which actually evolved from the crazy 
>>>>>>>> slave
>>>>>>>> is 3/5 of a person nonsense. Here we are ~~ 250 years later and we're 
>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>> dealing with decisions we made about slaves.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/7/2020 11:15 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We have spoken.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Righteous Indignation
>>>>>>>>
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