The other problem is email is a legacy service.  It’s like landlines.

 

The population of people who want an email account is preselected to be non 
techie high maintenance.  Then you carve out the people who think the way to 
get an email account is to call your ISP rather than get gmail, icloud, 
outlook.com, etc.  Now you have a population that is extremely dim and needy.  
And unlike Gmail which doesn’t have phone support, they can call you with all 
their problems.  Like every time they get spam or click on an email from a 
Nigerian prince.

 

People under 30 mostly don’t use email, it’s text messages or social media 
messenger apps.  If they have an email address, it’s probably their work email.

 

 

From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Matt Corcoran
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 2:06 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FW: OT windows update issues

 

This was my experience 12 years ago:   Has it changed?

 

The upkeep is when someone’s email triggers your domain to get added to a spam 
list and your customers call you because they can no longer receive any emails 
from  [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> .     
Then you finally reach the right department at populardomain.com and open a 
ticket to get unblocked.   Then repeat procedure each month with a new domain.  
    Then keep up with that latest security protocols and spam lists to try to 
prevent that from happening.     Oh an make sure someone doesn’t hack your 
server.

 

 

From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > on behalf 
of Bill Prince <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> >
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 2:36 PM
To: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> " <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FW: OT windows update issues

 

I think you're right Lewis. The cost of the machine(s) and software is minor. 
It's the monthly upkeep that will tip the scales. But hey, we all have our 
opinions, and what's the harm in giving it a shot?

 

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 11/17/2020 11:10 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

Or so he thinks. I hope it works out that way. it always seemed really cheap to 
run a mail server, until you had to do it right. Then it came to be very 
expensive. I surrendered and went to GMail. To each his own though. I know you 
likely have a lot smarter people than me around so they will likely handle it 
with no issue.

 

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 12:40 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Cost.  We have lots of accounts on it and lists and all kinds of other things.  
We put in our own email server concurrent with a new domain.  So it will save a 
significant amount of money for us.  

 

From: Darin Steffl [mailto:[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> ] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:31 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
Cc: Chuck McCown <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FW: OT windows update issues

 

Why are you leaving Gmail? There's nothing better unless you need to live in 
the Microsoft ecosystem then you have office 365.

 

We love Google apps for business and I use it for personal email too. They 
never let me down. 

 

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 11:59 AM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

On top of all of this, we are migrating away from gmail today.  PITA

 

From: Chuck McCown [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 10:46 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: OT windows update issues

 

So, today it appears that my Windows Live Mail database is corrupt.  Can only 
see headers.  So switching to outlook but that is painful.  

I rolled back the windows update that happened last night but still dead WLM… 
sob…  

 

Have resisted outlook for years.  Few times it would be nice.  When someone 
sends a meeting or contact at least I can read it without having to use a text 
editor and parsing through the complex crap…

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