At 25 megabit plans we see devices thrash painfully. They will think they have the full 25 meg. Try to grab a chunk. And can’t because something is using the bandwidth. That’s why we made lanes.
> On Dec 5, 2020, at 6:00 PM, Darin Steffl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Yes Netflix will scale down gracefully. They have the best compression and > least amount of buffering of any streaming provider. They are using the > latest encoding techniques to reduce bandwidth with no perceptible loss of > quality. > > Netflix will actually work down to 0.5 mbps without buffering. This will be > low quality of course but it works. > > If Netflix buffers, you have terrible wifi or a bad device. If your device > and wifi are good and you have at least 0.5 mbps, Netflix works. I've seen HD > work down below 1.5 mbps before and it's beautiful quality. > > I give Netflix tons of props for making sure their service works well when > others don't. Read through the Netflix Tech Blog if you wanna geek out on how > they operate. > >> On Sat, Dec 5, 2020, 3:49 PM Matt Hoppes <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> I don’t know. But this is why we run Saisei and carve out “channels” for >> applications. >> >> We’ve found issues with that exact situation and devices that don’t handle >> the down scale properly. >> >> We’ve actually had customers report a better experience on our 10 meg plan >> than our 25 megabit plan until we established data lanes on our plans. >> >> Now you buy a 25 meg plan but streaming, updates, gaming, voip, etc all have >> their own lanes. >> >> You can use everything unless something else wants data. Then everything >> gets dumped into the lanes and stays there. >> >> Some say this is shady I liken this to a freeway at rush hour. >> >> You leave all the traffic just go and it backlogs. You have the HOV lane and >> now traffic is flying again. >> >> Customers want their experience to just work. >> >>>> On Dec 5, 2020, at 4:39 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>> >>> I have seen customers recently using 12 Mbps for what appears to be a >>> single Netflix video stream. Anyone else seeing this? >>> >>> >>> >>> I was puzzled what could be between HD at 5-6 Mbps and UHD at 15-25 Mbps? >>> But then I saw this: >>> >>> >>> >>> https://netflixtechblog.com/optimized-shot-based-encodes-for-4k-now-streaming-47b516b10bbb >>> >>> >>> >>> Are these customers streaming 4K video? And if so, does anyone know what >>> happens if other people in the house start using bandwidth, will Netflix >>> gracefully adjust the video quality downward to lower quality UHD or to HD? >>> Or will customers start watching 4K UHD and then complain their Internet >>> sucks if other usage in the house drops the available download bandwidth to >>> 8 or 10 Mbps? >>> >>> >>> >>> And I wonder how this interacts with Netflix supposedly limiting stream >>> rates during the pandemic to lessen the burden on Internet infrastructure. >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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