"Ubuntu is and has been more secure than CentOS" is not an accurate
statement.

A system is only as secure as you make it.  CentOS is perfectly secure when
operated correctly.  As is any flavor of Debian.

Put a Debian system in the hands of someone who doesn't know what they are
doing and it's just as insecure as anything else.

On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 8:13 AM Lewis Bergman <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Ubuntu is backed by Canonical, is based on Debian, and as for security I
> would say Ubuntu is and has been more secure than CentOS and not as secure
> as Debian.
> But to be clear they are better like Jennifer Garner is hotter than
> Jennifer Aniston. Sure, hotter, but you likely would be really happy with
> either one of them.
>
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 11:59 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Holy shit, I just took a cursory look at redhat pricing. Starts at 350 a
>> year per server, physical server only, and not intended for production use.
>> 2500 a year for the data center if I read it right
>>
>> I run webmin to manage package updates and BIND. If I'm reading correctly
>> ubuntu isnt terrible, just less security patched since it's all opensource
>> and not subsidized by a big dog like red hat. Probably doable, but no yum.
>>
>> Has something like this happenned with centos historically? I assume the
>> linux community will bring about a comparable solution or resolution.
>>
>> This just stinks, I had my centos process down.
>>
>> Is this end of life like a microst end of life where they just keep
>> patching and saying they mean it this time for years?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 11:28 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Supposedly there will be CentOS Stream?  Kind of like RHEL beta instead
>>> of RHEL day old bread.  I guess their answer would be if you are using it
>>> in a production environment you could always pay for RHEL.  Or there’s
>>> Fedora.  I believe Preseem runs on Fedora.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>>> *Sent:* Friday, December 11, 2020 10:19 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Debian is like Ubuntu ,only better.  ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> *From: *"Steve Jones" <[email protected]>
>>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent: *Friday, December 11, 2020 5:12:13 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead?
>>>
>>> I've been a peasant my whole life, is there any other way?
>>>
>>> I think powercode is ubuntu now, so I'll probably go that route, are
>>> there major differences to it?
>>>
>>> I dont like saying ubuntu, too much like ubnt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 3:47 PM Seth Mattinen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/11/20 13:21, Steve Jones wrote:
>>> > Am I reading all this right? Redhat officially killed centos and its
>>> > tombstoned in 2021?
>>> >
>>> > Everything I run is centos. It's not like I know centos but I have my
>>> > resource sets on where to go to resolve anything that pops up.
>>> >
>>> > Is this just a normal thing in the linux world where something is
>>> ended
>>> > but actually just rebrands and keeps going or is it a legit end of the
>>> OS?
>>>
>>>
>>> It happens. Someone will probably fork it and make up a new distro if
>>> that hasn't happened already. IMO the main reason to use CentOS was
>>> because it was rebuilt RHEL.
>>>
>>> I gave up on Red Hat about two releases into Fedora Core when it became
>>> obvious it was just rapidly changing garbage for testing on the peasants
>>> before bringing fixes into their commercial version.
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